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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 30, 2022, 04:07:08 PM »
I have a BB92 on my FM-936(same as BB86 but 6mm wider) while I had ordered it as BSA.
Being heavily Hambinized at the time, I was very disappointed(big spindle in small hole = very bad  ;D)
But installed a DUB spindle anyway as I had it already.

After a year plus with the SRAM BB86/92 DUB and a heavy usage, races and mud, it is still surprisingly smooth.

On other bikes I tried GXP, BBinfinite(similar to Hambini), BB30, PF30, Wheels mfg and some Aliexpress PF by screw.
On all of these I was changing the bearings once or twice a year.

Moral of the story... for a DUB I would go every time with the SRAM, it is cheap and reliable.
And maybe look for something else only if unlucky, but probably the frame is then the problem (not concentric, or not circular holes) and any alternative won't probably work either.

Yes, I think I'll go for the SRAM DUB. I was looking up the Rotor Aldhu 24, and it would be double the cost of what I can get a Force AXS DUB crankset. That's a lot of bottom brackets.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 30, 2022, 02:46:44 PM »
From what i heard, C-Bear, Ceramic Speed, Kogel are all shit and overprized. Either go for Sram itself, Hambini or Token. Not sure Hambini has one, but they are also coming with quite a price tag. I heard good things about the token ones tho, but that was for the thread together design. the DUB diameter is a bit too big for the diameter of BB86.

If anything and what also Hambini recommends: try to stick to 24mm axles, they will actually be stiffer and give you more clearance. I know there are rotor aldhu cranks, with 24mm axles, that might be compatible with Sram? Maybe they even have 24mm versions?

Interesting. I didnĀ“t know of Token. But from a quick search, I haven't found it for sale in Europe.

About the 24mm axles, I could try a Sram crankset with a GXP axle. I don't know if other options exist compatible with 12s sram axs groupsets.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 30, 2022, 02:01:40 PM »
I'm going to build my 168 with a SRAM Force AXS groupset, with a DUB crankset. What kind of bottom bracket would you choose? I was leaning towards the official Sram BB86 DUB BB, but I'm worried about the durability. Maybe I should go for a more premium BB, like Kogel, C-Bear or Ceramic Speed? What do you think?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 29, 2022, 09:16:47 AM »
My weight estimation sheet

If I get to the 7.1Kg without pedals, I'll be super happy  ;D

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 26, 2022, 05:20:17 PM »
I think it exaggerates the issue for sure, but i don't think these surfaces were ever treated during production after they come out of the mold. They probably are roughly prepared for paint and then leave the factory as is.
Are you using those flat adapters for 160mm rotors, or are you using 140mm, mounting the calipers directly on the frame?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 26, 2022, 02:07:32 PM »
Do you think an unpainted frame has less chances of getting such problems? Maybe its related to the paint? I'm tempted to change my order to unpainted, if it solves these issues.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 25, 2022, 05:57:51 PM »
Anyone else had problems like this here in the forum?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 24, 2022, 06:38:28 PM »
    • The brake mount surfaces are not machined and need facing. One more trip to the bike shop.

    What do you mean? Did it affect the installation of the brakes?

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    Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
    « on: August 24, 2022, 08:48:38 AM »
    In my experience you have to be very clear with what you need an answer to, and be very proactive in the communication. Once shipped I got my order quite quickly: it was delivered in 9 days from Hong Kong to London. I went with XDB shipping and had a tracking code, all in all a good shipping experience.



    As for my situation with the fork, Chris has forwarded the pictures I already shared here, as well as a short video I had of the fork to the engineers. I hope it can get resolved that way. Best case scenario they would send me a new fork, I can return the one in my posesssion if they would like that.

    How long did it take for them to ship the order?

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    Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
    « on: August 23, 2022, 07:47:15 PM »
    I'm getting kind of frustrated by the lack of communication and lack of responses I'm getting from velobuild. I wanted to know the status of my order and the estimated time to shipping, no response. I also wanted for them to confirm the options I picked, so there would be no mistakes: no response. One of the two emails I got from them was just one word: "ok".

    It's really bugging me, to the point of making me rethink the whole thing.

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    Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
    « on: August 23, 2022, 07:07:18 AM »
    Also, a carbon fork cannot be bent or crushed in shipping

    A carbon fork either flex a little and goes back to original position

    or breaks in half. I cannot be bent like alloy.
    That's also the reason I would't try to put a wheel in that fork, even if it fits. Best case scenario it puts tremendous amount of pressure on the wheel and severely degrades the lifespan of the hub and bearings. Worst case, it snaps in half without warning.

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    Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
    « on: August 22, 2022, 10:54:00 AM »
    This entire discussion about questioning the safety/integrity of the fork could have easily been avoided if:

    Priority #1 - VeloBuild would have spent 5 extra seconds double checking the thru-axle hardware prior to shipment. Or if customer service (Chris) would have actually inspected the photo the customer provided to clearly see the axle being used.
    Priority #2 - We as DIY bike builders evolve to quickly recognize these simple errors as soon as they pop up. Much time and frustration could have been saved on both sides.

    Obviously that thru-axle is the wrong size. And I was sent a 168 frame without a seat post clamp, so I empathize with you.

    It becomes problematic and dismissive when we quickly default to the "this is a safety concern / all Chinese bikes are dangerous" mentality whenever issues arise. Most times it's simply an issue of hardware (headset bearings/covers, axles, derailluer hangers)

    I don't think the problem is the tru axle size. Its the fork spacing that is wrong. If you check most wheels require a 100x12 tru axle spacing of the fork (at least from my quick google search).

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    Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
    « on: August 22, 2022, 07:36:55 AM »
    Hi everybody.

    So I'm going to start building my first bike, and the choice has fallen on the velobuild 168 frame, size 52.

    The last few days I've been ordering the parts, and they should all arrive in 3 to 4 weeks.

    Groupset is going to be Sram Force AXS with hydraulic disc brakes, and the wheelset is the Elitewheels Drive 50D.

    Estimated weight 7.03 kg

    Super excited to get started :D

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