I had a fitter who did just that, pretty much turned his back to me to look at his computer and only turned around to make changes to the bike that fit in the angles the computer wanted. I was on a bike where native stack/reach was already 560/390, he added an additional 45mm of spacers and put me on an 80mm stem, and saddle almost fully pushed back on the rails. I said its painful but didn't seem to matter.

I'm 5'9" or 175cm with an inseam of 32" or 81cm. I went to a new fitter and she did't look at numbers or angles a single time until I was in a comfort zone, now I'm on a QuickPro AR:One size small with a slammed 110mm -17 stem, and 25mm offset seatpost. So over 8cm difference in stack height between fits.

I struggle with the modern progressive fit because a higher stack loads my hands and wrists. With anterior pelvic tilt and a good amount of flexibility i need saddle to bar drop to be high to get hamstring and core engagement and unweight my wrists.  It seems the more forward I move the saddle the lower I need the handlebars to be.

This has been exactly my experience to a T as well. I'm of similar height and inseam (173cm 76.2cm inseam) and have actually gone with the AR:ONE too (to be built soon), coming from a CAAD10. I'm a guy with longer arms and torso than legs. So my bikes often don't have as much exposed seatpost, but has a lower front end to compensate for that.

Both run 20mm setback seatposts, slammed saddle forward (I found my favourite saddle to be the new Fizik Arione - I plan to buy another copy in the future for my CAAD, gonna poach that one for the new build) and 100mm stems (-7 and -8). CAAD10 is slammed with a 5mm headset cover but I may try getting lower with the AR:ONE since it has a lower stack. Ever since I got lower and got the saddle position in range, my back, hand and ass pain has COMPLETELY gone away on long rides.

A few updates:

1. I like the Arione saddle a lot more than the Antares. I'll stick with it. With that, I also ordered the bar tape with it.
2. Wheels finally arrived. Attached some pics:

I'm glad I went with glossy 45mm depth, because the glossy coat over the raw carbon material matches so well with my frame. First impressions upon unboxing and inspecting it - I didn't find anything wrong with it. However, I will for sure update this thread on when I finally ride it and get some kilometres down. Anyways, I weighed it and it came out to be 1213g, which is just slightly higher than the advertised tolerance. After updating my spreadsheet and estimating, the build should come in at 7.25 kg ~ which is light enough for me.

It would be really easy though to get it down to 6.8 kg with just three changes: the ultegra crankset to a carbon crankset, going with dual 140mm rotors, 30mm to 28mm tires and changing the saddle to a carbon one. But that's $$$, plus I want the best braking and comfort possible to bomb descents lol. Tbh since I really like this saddle, maybe I'll upgrade to a 3d printed one next year... (It won't shave off much weight, but I'd be able to mount that saddle to my spare bike and try out 3D printed).

I'll continue to update the beginning post as I gather more parts.

This one from inbike is excellent. best fit jersey I own and it's not even close. IF you can look past the insanely cheesy slogans
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005012355782570.html

This one in particular though. I have another long sleeve summer from inbike (rabbit design) and the fit is awful. fabric is also worse

"Every Mile, Every Smile" lmaoooooo.

OK so basically the update on XHS is, someone went to the Spect company registered address, found its an empty office.
I will not say anything more, just FYI
Just use Chrome translate or AI to translate the page.

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Yikes! Good thing that I waited for more info on this frame before I dropped money.

Hello,

Starting a thread to document my build over the next two months (end of September to start of October for the completed build) and to replace that really old thread about the AR:ONE for discussion. I'm coming from a 2011 CAAD10 that I bought used just before the start of 25' that I've been riding the hell out of. So I'm pretty excited to see how my build will shape out, as I've received the frameset a few days ago and my wheelset shipped yesterday.

Background

I was pretty undecided between the ER:ONE and AR:ONE as they're in similar price categories. In the end though, what won me over was that the AR:ONE was said to emulate the feeling of super stiff rim brake bikes AND is aero enough, while being quite light for climbing. I'm about 173 cm tall and 57 kg, and so climbing is one of the most enjoyable things to me. The idea of having a really stiff and light bike to throw around appealed to me the most.

Build Plan and Costs

I live in Canada but I'm travelling to China in September for a bit over two weeks. So I plan to purchase the majority of my bicycle parts in the meantime while I'm there and have already researched costs, so I've got a pretty good rough estimate already. At the moment I've got the frameset & handlebars in, and the wheels have been shipped - I haven't received them yet, but they're from a smaller store.They're advertised as 1165g, but I'll post pictures of them when they arrive and inspect them in person.

Maybe I'll change the bar tape as it's not finalized yet, but I'll see. And in addition to this, I plan to run a waxed drivetrain so that it's clean and lasts longer.

All in all, I think the build will come out to be just 6.9 - 7.1 kg with mounts and pedals. We'll see but it'll be a big upgrade for sure.

Parts & Costs (CAD)

Frameset (includes headset and seatpost): AR:ONE - $2,713
Handlebars: Zephyr SSL - $286 (Includes computer mount).
Saddle: Fizik Vento Arione R5 - $136
Bottle Cages: No name Chinese carbon cages - $20

Bar Tape: Fizik Tacky 2mm - $48
Groupset (w/o crankset): Ultegra DI2 R8170 - $1130
Crankset Ultegra 160mm crankset: - N/A (already had them on my CAAD).
Disc Rotors with 140 - 160 adapter: IIIPro A2 160mm + 140mm - $32 (as a pair).

Bottom Bracket: BBR60 - $15

Wheelset: No Name 45mm Chinese Wheels - $600
TPU Tubes: Spades branded TPU tubes - N/A (Included with frameset order).
Tires: GP5000 30mm - $155 (as a pair).
Pedals: 105 R7000 - N/A (I plan to swap this to Favero Assiomas when they go on sale though in Nov).
Rear Light Mount: AR:ONE seatpost rear light mount for Wahoo - $6 (I want to install a Wahoo TRACKR radar).
Front Computer Mount: Niu Ju - $20 I will probably go with Niu Ju again, but not sure yet.

Total Cost Estimate
$5,158 CAD or 3,701 USD.

Attached a few pictures of the frameset. The frameset was really clean and I didn't see any issues. I think the build will go smooth, but this will be my first time setting up a disc brake bike, let alone a DI2 system. I've only built up my CAAD10 and have cut the fork on it already. Hopefully it goes well - I'll probably get my friend to help me and pay him a Costco pizza and a drink lol. Nothing like dragging your homies for 4 hours of unpaid labour and paying him with food and drinks.

Just placed an order for these wheels from a store named "Carbon Riding Wheelset Store". Specs looked promising and after using Aliexpress and the store's coupons, I got it down to 600 CAD shipped.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005012659746703.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.15.3d6f1802QLqo1K

Let's see how they turn out. I picked glossy 45mm wheels and should weigh 1165g ~ for the pair. This will be for my AR:ONE build which won't be done until the end of September.

any recommendations for cheap but good 12 speed quicklinks from AliExpress? The Shimano ones are a bit more expensive and I am not sure if they are fake or not. Then there are multiple other options from Risk, ztto and the likes.

Not 12S but 11S Riderace (they sell 12S). No issues, works perfectly fine on my HG701 chain.