Hi guys, new to the forum, and this is my first post. I've stumbled upon this thread a couple of months ago, and after research provided by you guys, I've pulled the trigger on my first chinese frame. I've bought Ostro vam 2.0 frame from Taiwan Glory, had contact with Tom on Whatsapp. I've ordered size 58 in purple to blue chameleon color with a 42cm wide handlebar.

Just a bit of the timeline, I've contacted Tom regarding frames on 21.10., after back an forth on colors and information we agreed on 665€ direct bank transfer. I confirmed and paid 50% on 24.10., and got the news on 10.11., that the frame is ready. I sent the other 50% of the money the same day. Frame was packed on 13.11. and shipped on 15.11., it arrived in Belgium on 23.11., and was delivered by DPD to my doorstep in Slovenia yesterday the 28.11. So 5 weeks from the day of contacting to the frame beeing delivered, I think that is quite fast.

The frame was packed well, and the box was not damaged in the transport.

The first impressions of the frame are great, the paintjob looks very good, and the inside walls look very clean and neat. We also agreed with Tom that he will provide the BB for the price, but it was not in the box, I contacted him today, he apologised and said that he'll send it. I had to pay 1.1€ aliexpress fee for creating a tracking number. We'll see...

I will make some detailed pictures and I'll weigh everything in a couple of days.

I'm also trying to figure this out. I think if you want the Blue Ceramicspeed you have to buy from Factor?

I just ordered my frame from Polar. Will update here when I have more to share.