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JH35 is not UDH also?Correct, the JH-35 does not have UDH
I really don't want to buy anything with proprietary hanger anymore, so I find that is worth a lot for me...
I do think that a 266DSL will end up being a more expensive build since I think you would buy the frame from LTK and then get a headset from FSA and then get a handlebar from XMCS Speeder, or some other source.Yes, that's what I'm thinking about. The JH-35 handlebar weighs 320g (quite light, right?), no issues with the headset, no issues with the spacers, no issues with the seatpost clamp cover. It's not just about the price difference, but also, to be honest, this isn't the most interesting part of the build — searching for the better spacers and seatpost clamp covers bacause stock one is too bad. If these problems didn't exist, there would certainly be no doubt that the LTK266-D-SL looks like an excellent option then.
but if someone can help with other spacers i would give the handlebar a try! some quick pics:
Black part was promissed to be just ud raw with matt clear cote!
How could such an unsuitable, ugly part even come into existence? And it's not about the price at all, frames that are twice as cheap come with good-looking covers and spacers, and even under Permeants and Tideace brands, with a price $350 higher, a frame comes with the same unsuitable seat clamp cover.
hmm this looks different. Maybe some black toner was added to the second photo to make the color more solid more uniform? I would like to get the first option, the one above, where the carbon is visible, along with the imperfect surface (beauty! I like it!) and the material joints.
yes , they're different matte finsih , in the first picture , there's no any black paint except the joints , the UD weave can be seen very clearly . But in the second picture , there's black paint , we call in transparent Black matte finsih , the UD weave can be seen Vaguely , we can do the painting for you according to your demand .
First-time poster. This is my second bike from Long Teng, the first being the LTK 268 (Thank you @Serge_K for the recommendation). The LTK 266 handles noticeably differently from the 268. The bike went together fairly easily, I only had to drill the hole for the front derailleur cable, as it was too small.Yeah! Congrats on the awesome build, man! Could you take a photo of the drive side, using your phone's 2x...5x lens, landscape orientation, from waist level not head height, just a basic bikeporn-photo-rules. It'll be great for the first post gallery if @Sakizashi doesn't mind adding!
Bike:
https://imgur.com/a/w9Ajdv1
its subtle in photos but quite visible IRL. The clear might be tinted a little.Thanks! This is quite interesting! It's strange that in one case (on their website) the UD matte looks gray and the carbon surface and joints are clearly visible, while in another case (yours) the matte part is almost completely uniform and dark. Interesting. Alisa sent me another photo (attached) where, as she claims, one part is glossy and the other matte, just like yours. But it looks as if black paint/toner has been added there, and the carbon is no longer so clearly visible. Oook, I feel like I'm talking too much about this here haha, but I'm curious how I can get something that looks gray with the carbon clearly visible...
You can see it here in a prebuild photo which shows both the carbon and the matte.
Realized no one answered your question.
The finishes are mostly right except that choice C is what they call matte UD. It is a clearcoat and surprisingly robust. its on the lower section of my frame. Mine is part gloss and part matte. The way they did it was matte first and then gloss over the gloss portion. Unfortunately for me, that made it heavier, and with the way the frame actually looks in real life, I would have likely gone with either of those.
...for single set, the most colors we can do is 2 colors with gradient, and for the color, we only use the ones we have in stock, we don't order new paint oil, because it'll cost much, thanks for your understanding!
I'm going toYes, my bad, I'm sorry, I found it myself right before your reply.
I'm going to make this a learning experience by asking you to read the threadwhere we detail all of these questions. I even post pictures of my invoice. (Short answer is it was just under $1k USD shipped to the USA and you do so by emailing Alisa. But please read the thread. It doesn't take that long.)
Correct. It kind of rides like a Tarmac SL8 in terms of how it interacts with it's environment. Meaning crosswind stability and when at speed. It's literally the same shape and design. I said this in my video. Both frames are essentially identical in these specific regards.
That's pretty much where the similarities end for me personally now that I have several hundreds of miles in. It's nowhere as stiff and nimble as the real SL8. I've swapped in at least 3-4 different wheelsets, dialed in my bike fit, and put the bike through my usual daily workouts/efforts. I even swapped to a different cockpit. From the EXS Aerover (known not to be stiff) to Peter's XMCS's cockpit. How it interacts with the rider is a different experience than an SL8. So unfortunately that 20%-30% delta from a genuine Tarmac mostly all comes in its lack of comparable stiffness, nimbleness, and power transfer. It's more comfortable than an SL8 because it isn't as stiff. Nevermind about the fit and finish...
I've been purposely quiet in here about speaking on the X68. And TanTan as a whole. Trying not to be cryptic or passive aggressive. I'm not exactly happy with everything surrounding my dealings for the company. It's a story for another time. But I will at least say that the extreme variation in rider experience among several customers highlights that perhaps the build quality from TanTan on this particular frame offering is very inconsistent frame to frame.
It's rare that I feel worse about a frameset over time. The only frame I've felt this way about was, you guessed it, the TanTan X38 (Scott Foil clone). I cant figure out how TanTan can make such a BANGER for a GR201 gravel frame and be questionable at best in their road offerings.
