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With a wider spindle, you'd need to make sure the bearing spacing would be wide enough to line up with the raised sections of the spindle. It could be a problem if your frame is press fit but could be OK with BB spacers if your frame is threaded.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Nexga S1
« on: August 28, 2026, 12:12:48 AM »
Ok, I've received my Nexga S1 and completed a few tests comparing it to my Tacx Neo 2T.

Buckle up, this will be a long post, heavy with data.

I'll start with a question: should a zero offset calibration be completed before starting each and every ride, perhaps even after pauses during the ride? (not talking about accuracy tests)

I usually don't bother doing so and completed at least 150 rides with my Magene P505 equipped bike, at least 80% of them without spinning the crank backwards 5 times (to calibrate the meter).
While this is not scientific, I've never felt like the numbers reported by the meter were off, I feel like I've developed some sense of what power numbers should be (ballpark) for a given effort. Also, there has be no wild variation in my performance over the 150 or so rides, only a very steady (i.e. slow) progression.
I also have 2 bikes equipped with Geoid PM500 power meters and haven't noticed anything weird either. I don't remember if I performed a zero offset calibration for the PM500 test I did (https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,6617.msg116827.html#msg116827).

This long introduction leads me to what I believe to be a huge issue with the Nexga S1. It seems to require incessant zero offset calibrations to be performed in order to generate accurate data.

I will frequently refer to "realtime offset" numbers in this post to illustrate this point. The companion app allows to export a log (great feature!), which includes "realtime offset" amongst other data.
Zero calibration brings the offset number back to 0.
It is claimed in the manual that the Nexga S1 has an auto calibration feature.



Offset was at 3813 the first time I started the device.
Offset was at 2262 when the first calibration was done, 2h30m after first startup.

Temperature between the first calibration and the last calibration as reported in the log was between 22.1 and 26.8 Celcius. The bike stayed on the trainer in my living room for the entire time.
Firmware was updated to 0.1.5 before installing.
Installation and setup was straigtforward.

Test 0 (initiation)

This test was performed right after installing the power meter on my bike. Instructions were to install, then do a few out of the saddle efforts, then calibrate. This test shows this.
Offset was -189 right before this test, which started 3h40m after the last calibration.

Calibration is at around the 2m30s mark. Offset before calibration was -227.


There is a 27 watt gap between the Nexga S1 and Neo 2T before calibration. Keep in mind that the power meter was last calibrated only 3h40m before starting the test. Also, Nexga is much quicker to notice when I stop pedaling.


The gap is down to only 7 watts after calibrating, but it is a longer period.


But it doesn't look that good at the last ERG steps with a 12 watt gap.


Sprints look fine tho with a 5 watt gap and no significant residual offset after them. Again, Nexga is much quicker to notice when I stop pedaling.


Goal here was to test cadence tracking. Both Nexga and Tacx managed to keep up to 156/155 rpm, but Tacx thought I kept going when I actually stopped (notice the power curve correctly sloping down for both devices). For some reason, peak power was 96 watts higher with the Nexga  ???


End of test 0.
I did calibrate the Nexga after the test, offset was at 21 before calibrating.

Test 1

This test was attempted the next day, 21h after the last calibration. It was a bust because I configured a custom workout in Mywhoosh that was too intense for my motivation... but

The 79 watt difference is shocking to me. I did not calibrate before the test in order to test how the Nexga would perform if I did not calibrate it like I do not calibrate my Magene / Geoid power meters before most rides.
Offset at power on just before the test was -719, which is quite a drift after 21h.


Test 2

This test is with a revised workout and is meant to compare the data a day or so after calibration and the data right after a new calibration. It was performed about 22h after the last calibration.

The difference is pretty clear...


84 watt difference before calibration.


4 watt difference after calibration. Offset was -693 at the moment of calibration.


Zoom on ERG segments and the sprint after calibration. That is the kind of results I'm hoping for.


End of test 2.
Offset at the end of this test was 22.

Test 3

The final test's goal was to test if a 1h pause without calibration would effect the data. This test was started 1h after the end of test 2.

It did... Offset was -149 right before the start of this test.


Not calibrating the Nexga for 1h or so resulted in a 17 watt error.


Calibrating the Nexga, again, resulted in data that is aligned with the Neo 2T. Offset was -92 at the moment of calibration, a difference of 57 in only about 5 minutes of pedaling.


Conclusion

  • :(
  • Good accuracy... if freshly calibrated
  • Data isn't affected by sprints
  • Data is trash after a ~1h pause
  • The problems in tests 1 and 2 were very obvious just looking at my Garmin 1040 connected to the Nexga (going back to the intro and me not noticing anything weird using my Magene and Geoid power meters without calibrating them)
  • I suspect that the auto calibration feature does not work as I see nothing relating to it in the log (I only seem calibration events initiated by me), nothing in the app and the test results could suggest it isn't working

I'm obviously disappointed, but I knowingly took a risk...
This seems like an unfinished product that wasn't properly tested... or maybe it's teething issues and I'm paying the early adopter price.
Maybe it could be fixed by firmware? Auto-calibration fix?
Or maybe my unit is faulty? The (shorter) pauses seen in test 3 of Panda Podium's report don't seem to cause problems and the unit holds its calibration over more than 4 hours (https://www.pandapodium.cc/post/nexga-s1-the-most-accurate-chinese-power-meter/).
I can't use it as it is.
I'll be contacting Panda Podium.

Edits: a bunch of typos, small mistakes and some points in the conclusion

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Geoid PM500 power meter
« on: August 19, 2026, 09:36:36 PM »
Where do you set it up on this power meter so that the bike computer also reads cadence? I have a Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT 2, and it only shows power, while cadence is picked up from a Magene sensor.

You don't need the cadence sensor, ditch it. Your computer should read cadence from the power meter if there is no other cadence sensor connected.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Nexga S1
« on: August 17, 2026, 09:32:02 AM »
Are you in Asia? NGeco costs 340 EUR incl VAT. which is very competitive for a confirmed bullet proof double side powermeter (Hello Quarq with a single side measurement PM in the spindle)

I'm in North America. Best price I could find was about 2x the price of the Nexga, same price as Assioma Duos.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Nexga S1
« on: August 14, 2026, 12:10:37 PM »
I placed an order on Panda Podium. I'll compare my unit with my Tacx Neo 2T once received to provide a second test backed with data.

Don't want to sound like a paid influencer, but at this price point why not get p2max? Any interface you want, 2 years warranty, produced in Europe and reliable as a swiss watch.

The p2max is more than 2x the price for me. At that point I'd get Assiomas.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Nexga S1
« on: August 12, 2026, 09:18:15 PM »
Panda Podium also has a review out https://www.pandapodium.cc/post/nexga-s1-the-most-accurate-chinese-power-meter/
It claims it performed as well as the Assioma Pedals.

Interesting! The results look promising and the readings after the 1200W sprint are matching the Assiomas.

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oops, thought I included the link.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006636009269.html

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Hey guys, one quick question... as I am about to install new chainrings (Ultegra), how long do the bolts need to be? 9mm? Whats the correct torque? Don want to break it too soon again.

Original Shimano bolts work fine of course, they have a thread length of about 10mm.
I use titanium bolts on my P505 with a thread length of 9.2mm.

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I assume the top is rechargeable and the bottom is using a CR2032 coin cell battery.

I was about to order one to test/review, but that pricing has me concerned and I'm not confident that store (which isn't XCadey) will deliver the updated version of this spider.

It's not listed anywhere on the XCadey website.

I'd sure like to see it tested! I'm tempted to test one myself, but only the heavier "Lite" version with removable battery seems to be available, I'd want the other one.

More from the CycloWired post:


Thanks for the info and links! The factory tour is interesting.

that is 350€ converted, and I would assume japan is cheaper overall
a far cry from the 100€ in the title  :(

Those two are around $110 USD, seen from my account at least. Aliexpress pricing being what it is, you might get a different price.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005012671083751.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005012816029676.html


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2 new models spotted here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005011619784974.html

There isn't much info about them on the page.

Top one has a charging port, but the bottom one doesn't  :-\
I like how the bottom one fits with Shimano chainrings.



I wonder if they fixed the issues found the the Gen2. Also, why undercut their 2-3x more expensive model?

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Geoid PM500 power meter
« on: August 02, 2026, 12:40:22 PM »
I tested the PM500 against my Tacx Neo 2T a while ago and posted the results on Reddit and wanted to post the results here as well but had trouble logging in. Anyway, now that I've managed to log in, here are the results.

I installed a Geoid PM500 on my gravel bike thinking (hoping) it would offer the performance of the now discontinued Magene P505 at a lower price as the Magene is well proven and I'm happy with mine on my road bike.
However, I have not seen much testing of the PM500, so I decided to do a quick and dirty test of mine against my Tacx Neo 2T by comparing the two fit files using compare-the-watts.com

Results (with 2 seconds offset and 1second smoothing):

Overall


Some low power steps in ERG mode (the slope is the Neo 2T not adjusting resistance fast enough to compensate for me raising the cadence)


Higher power steps in ERG mode


1st 1000+ watt effort in free ride mode


2nd 1000+ watt effort in free ride mode


3rd 1000+ watt effort in free ride mode


 Observations regarding the PM500:
- Tracks the Neo 2T pretty well overall.
- No fumble after 1000+ watt efforts (seems to be the pitfall of many power meters tested by Mr. Lama, including the latest crop of affordable models, unfortunately).
- Seems to be more responsive to sudden power increases (always felt the Neo 2T felt "smoothed" compared to my P505 ridden outside).
- Several drops in cadence can be seen, but I don't know if it's some sort of glitch, connection issue or the meter picking up drops in my not very smooth pedaling (linked to previous point?), but there doesn't seem to be any corresponding drops in power, weird.
- There is a drop in power between the 28th and 30th seconds in the 3rd 1000+ watt effort, but no cadence drop, again, weird (linked with the 2 previous points?).

I'm happy with the results, it's close enough to the Neo 2T and doesn't exhibit offset problems after higher power efforts.

Installation is very straightforward, just like a Shimano crank, simpler than the Magene PES P505.
The most negative point about this power meter (and other Magene spider power meters) is the crank interface, I wish it were Easton compatible.

I hope this post was of interest to those shopping for affordable power meters :)

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