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Anyone tried running with the Seatpost below the max insertion depth? I.e beyond where the grippy surface ends.

My Seatpost is at the lowest point already but when compared to my old bike it looks to be 5-10mm higher. So on the LCR018-D this would mean it would grip on a smooth section of the post.

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Hi Pandaman,

I wouldn't mind picking up a set of thru axles as well - would be happy to split the cost with you (and cover the forwarding post to me).
Send me a message if you'd be interested!

Hi bsharp77, can you check your inbox to see if a PM has arrived?  Sent PM but nothing is showing in my sent items

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Hi Pandaman,

I wouldn't mind picking up a set of thru axles as well - would be happy to split the cost with you (and cover the forwarding post to me).
Send me a message if you'd be interested!

Hi, yeah would be good to split the cost of the postage to make it more bearable as I don't think I would bother otherwise.

Will ping you a PM.

If anyone else in the UK wanting to join in to buy some spare axles then let me know.

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Anyone ordered spares at a later date from their original bike order and what postage did you pay?

I thought it might be sensible to order another set of through axles and seatpost expander with them being custom and worried they may get lost or damaged in the future.

the cost of the parts themselves are quite reasonable (30USD in total) but the cost for postage to send them to the UK is $33USD! They will only send them via DPD express and I asked whether a cheaper slower option was available and was told this wasnt.

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@ All
Take a closer look on the HBR17 vs the HBR14 handlebars.
HBR17 looks a bit  :o in real world. If HBR14 was standard, i guess no one would take the HBR17 voluntarily

I would probably still choose the HBR17. Looks sleeker and nicer than a standard looking HBR14.

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Anybody waiting for their shipment of LCR018-D?

I ordered on Jun 23, Wendy told me it'll take about 30-45 business days. I emailed Wendy hoping for the frame to be ready and shipped by mid-August but alas, she said the production would probably be done by September 15-20, that's 22 days delay!!!.

I am very disappointed in that regard, along with the lack of updates whenever production timeline changes.

For context: I ordered a size 50 raw glossy carbon no logo, with 38x120mm. No fancy stuff like custom painting, which inevitably would take "more" time, hence me not opting for any paint.

I dont know what goes in their factory or if they're having carbon supply issues but I am very dissatisfied with Lightcarbon. I was hoping to build up this frame throughout the summer...

I think they are overwhelmed with orders for the LCR018-D due to its success.  I ordered back in 10th May and received my frame on the 27 July so that was just over 11 weeks and that included custom painting and also a delay in getting my handlebar instock.  I did set myself an expectation that it would take a while based on feedback here so wasnt too worried if it took longer than expected.

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Was there any play before? 6 nm is a lot for a top cap. The spacing looks large, though I don't think it's a big problem.

No play at all and everything is lined up correctly.  The 6Nm figure is whats stated as the required torque in the Lightcarbon instruction sheet.

Like some of the other posters in the previous couple of pages, the gap seems larger than expected.  I'm thinking the metal ring that sits above the bearing has been thickened to ensure the cover doesnt rub against the headtube which some have experienced in the early builds.

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This is my head tube to dust cover gap (looks to be approx 1.5mm) which appears similar to the previous couple of posters and seems larger than expected. This is with the top handlebar cover torqued down to 6Nm and there’s no free play at all. Can any other builders confirm if this is normal and if it’s something’s to worry about?

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I finished my build yesterday. Sorry to bring up the topic again but here is the total play between my frame and the bottom plastic spacer. A bit more than a mm. The fork is preloaded as I did tighten the top cap bolt to around 2 Nm. I was not given the plastic shim like I have seen on some build. Do you think that acceptable ?

https://imgur.com/a/hDMG9xS

Am I missing something here.

I have lower bearing bevel up and the upper bearing bevel down. Then when I put the fork thru along with other two components. There is a small gap. As as shown in the image.
I just want to make sure I am not missing something. I did wonder if the two bearings are different sizes.

Thank you for any help.


I started my build over the weekend and managed to get my headset bits all assembled and cut my fork.  I would say my headtube to plastic cover gap is similar to you folks, was surprisingly larger than I thought and I tripled check it all to make sure before I cut my tube tube but looks to be right.

My delivery didnt come with a 0.7mm spacer that they were previously shipping to alleviate some rubbing issues. I had posted about this when I got my frame last week and seems the latest deliveries no longer get this spacer.  I am wondering if they have made some adjustment in the latest deliveries (maybe shortening the plastic cover or increasing the thickness of the metal ring) to accommodate a larger clearance.

My only worry is the larger clearance allowing water to ingress and potentially ruining the bearings.

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Started my build tonight by stripping my 105 di2 groupset from my old bike that I’ll be using in the lcr018. Hopefully get cracking on it this weekend.

One question I trialled fitting the rear derailleur hanger, does this look to be the correct orientation for it? The frame doesn’t appear to be moulded for it but this seems to be the logical placement but would be good if someone can confirm, thanks.

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Thanks for the replies, makes sense to clamp on the seatpost. I’ve also ordered both offset and zero offset post so will have a spare in the worse scenario.

One more question about the headset assembly, does the bottom headset just has only the bearing directly in between fork and frame and nothing else?

Then on top headset part is the order of: bearing, inner black metal ring, outer black plastic ring, spacers and expander plug (in the fork)?

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Gonna start putting my frame together this weekend.

My previous bike was carbon frame but with alloy seatpost, so the LCR018 is my first bike with a carbon seatpost.  In the past I've clamped around the seatpost when mounting on a bike stand.  Is it still ok to do this with a carbon seatpost?

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Got my frame delivered on Monday - original order date was 10th May so wasnt too bad.

One thing I wanted to check, the parts I got for my headset didnt include the additional washer/spacer that I thought was needed to prevent noise/rubbing.  Have the recent deliveries no longer include this?

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Looks like my frame (which was ordered back in 5th May) is now ready but my handlebar (380*100) is now out of stock and wont be ready until mid august.

Anyone had to wait for there handlebars to come back in stock and were they good with their estimated time or could possibly be even earlier?

I have an event on the end of august that I was hoping to use this bike on.

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Can I ask, what is your height and in seam dimension?

I have ordered the exact same frame and handlebar size and I hope its good for me being at 179cm and 83cm in seam.

I now have put a few hours of riding into the LCR018-D so just want to give everyone the final specs of the bike and a quick initial impression.

Specification:

Size 54 frameset
Raw carbon, gloss finish, laser silver decals (absolutely superb - despite my love of hyper chameleon finishes, this raw carbon is by far my favourite finish).
380/80 Handlebar
Inline Seatpost
Ultegra 8170 Groupset with titanium bolt upgrades on the groupset and throughout the bike
Frames & Gear UDH Direct Mount Hanger
CeramicSpeed T47 BB
Go-Zone 45mm Carbon Wheelset, 24mm internal, CX Ray Spokes, brass rainbow nipples, GP5000 30mm Tyres, Ridenow TPU tubes
Galfer Wave Rotors, Swissstop 34RS brake pads
YBN S12 TIC rainbow chain, waxed with Dynamic Wander Wax (soon to be moving to UFO Ultra Endurance Wax)
Lightcarbon 3D print saddle and carbon bottle cages
Lightcarbon titanium garmin mount

Assembly:

Putting the bike together was a pleasure - has to go down as the easiest bike I have ever built - and this is my first disc brake bike so that is saying something!
Everything is finished to a very high standard, no problem routing any cables - handlebars are easy to route through as well - everything just works.
Di2 battery holder in the seatpost is custom made to fit and is a really nice finishing touch.
Another feature not really mentioned is the little GoPro mount which attaches to the Garmin mount in where the mount meets the bar - not out front at the actual Garmin faceplate. This is such a great little addition - it allows me to add a light to the bike but keep it nicely tucked in close to the frame - so compact and neat and not something ive seen before, so kudos to LightCarbon for this!

Initial Impressions:

If there is one word I would use to describe this bike, it would be smooth.
It's exactly as I hoped for, and exactly the bike I wanted.
Is it as responsive as a TCR? No. Is it as fast as an Aeroad? No. Dont get me wrong, its fun and a pleasure to ride, but im trying to give an objective feel of the actual ride compared to some other bikes.
BUT - its smoother than anything else ive ridden, and im willing to bet I might actually be faster over 4-5 hours on this bike than the other 2 listed, because this bike does not beat me up at all.
It is so easy on the body that after 2 hours I find myself physically in far better shape than I would be on any of my other race bikes - and thats the key.
I bought this bike for endurance, and it's ticking all the boxes - and then some.

I went for Ultegra 8170 Di2 and ive never been as blown away by a groupset.
I've been using 9150 Di2 on my Cervelo S3 which is very, very good - but this 8170 is ridiculous. Absolutely silent and shifts faster than any groupset ive ever used - even the front shifts feel like a rear shift - so smooth, fast and quiet.
I wasn't expecting that much of a difference - but it is a big difference to any groupset ive used and I couldn't recommend highly enough.
Ive added the little button "exaggerators" that slip in under the hoods to make the hidden buttons more pronounced (I got them off Aliexpress) - what a difference they make! I can press even with winter gloves and feel the clicks so clearly - a small but massive improvement.

Another big motivator for this bike was the shift to disc brakes - I have hand and wrist problems at the minute and needed something to ease the pressure and force going through my hands - especially on wet winter roads.
Overall, I am delighted with disc braking. Bleeding the 8170 was so simple as to be a joke - took 5 minutes to do both front and back. Aligning the rotors did keep me busy for half an hour as I wrapped my head around it, but now all set and silent.
 
I was surprised by the gradual nature of the braking - to me it feels much like a very well setup rim brake bike, but the key difference being that it feels the same even in the wet! So this is a huge improvement.
Im using Swissstop 34RS pads, so maybe other pads would give a different feel, but I am very happy with how these perform.

Another interesting bonus is the lack of external cables. The bike looks so sleek and clean - and to that point, no cables makes cleaning down the bike SO much easier!
It is such a well rounded package overall, so smooth, confidence inspiring in its stability, still agile and absolutely silent, which always brings a smile to my face when riding.

One point to mention is the handlebars. I love the look of the design, and the sloping shape gives an extra few mm of height to the shifters. However that sloping shape is not great for riding on the tops as it angles your shoulders in towards each other and feels rather cramped. As someone who loves to climb, I can see this being a slight point of annoyance in the future, so I may revisit the bars after a while and think about changing them out. Its a small point, but something worth mentioning.

It will be interesting to see when the good weather comes around again what I think of taking my Cervleo S3 out again - the LCR018-D is such a well rounded bike that covers every scenario so well, that I can see it becoming my go-to bike for most rides.

Future Plans:

There's not much more to do to the bike, but I have a couple of things i'd like to try.

1. A "best" wheel upgrade for the good days. A 50/55 ish deep set of wheels around 1200g to really make the bike shine. The Go Zones are great, and the brass nipples give me all year round confidence, but at 1380g they are a do it all workhorse. Id love a set of all out performance wheels for big days out. I'm trying to decide between DFS Carbon custom build, Serenade 50mm, Aero Raptor 50mm, XM Carbon custom build, or 9Velo - any thoughts here much appreciated!

2. A second fork. I have my current fork cut with a couple of extra spacers for maximum comfort, I'd love to get another one and cut it slammed for better aero performance on fast days. Its not that big a deal to switch the fork out, so currently debating the cost if an extra fork and an extra caliper.

Sorry for the rambling, hope this is of some use to users on the forum. Anything else you'd like to know about the bike, just reach out and I'd be glad to help.




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