Quote from: patliean1 on October 20, 2026, 09:30:19 AMIncoming... 

So can't wait to comparison this one to RF10, is there any ETA?

Quote from: BeR on September 23, 2026, 04:00:16 AM
Some pictures of a paint job.

Is there an option to order a paintless frame?

Quote from: moewe on May 25, 2026, 06:22:59 AM
Well, I am 172cm, too - but with an 81,5cm inseam and quite happy with size 52.

well it doesn't help at all 
so the question is 81.5 inseam was measured by pressing the book all the way up while standing as it should be? This is also how i measured mine + you need to remember that the shorts insert is another thing that should be removed from that 81.5cm but i didn't personally measure with it.

and the second one i have kinda short arms

Quote from: krroller on May 24, 2026, 01:02:05 PM
Ordered in mid-February and received in mid-May.   
Size 50
Just got it put together with SRAM Force AXS XPLR (1x13) groupset, and using LightCarbon Rims NRD28-450C (28mm outer width (21mm inner width) w/ undulating 45- 50mm height) and 32mm Conti GP 5000 S TR tires.

can you share your height and inner leg? I am 172 and inner leg 80cm and wonder 50 or 52 will fit better

Quote from: Sakizashi on May 24, 2026, 11:04:53 AM
The outdoor aero testing I do is not a gold standard type of anything and it's specific to me. However, the aero differences between bikes that you can notice IME come down to position. Being able to keep your front end narrow and stable, elbows tucked in is worth a lot of watts. Being able to get your back into the flattest position you can, likely worth a lot of watts.

That said, I cant tell you that you will be able to make use of the potential difference between the LCR018-D and the LTK266-D-SL. Nobody but a bike fitter can do that.

As someone who does take advantage of position differences (and the LTK is actually not aggressive enough for a pure road bike for me) the difference between my custom road bike and the LTK "test" bike is not that different than the difference between by custom road bike and an SL8 or a Dogma F12. Does that make the LTK fast? No, it means that the resolution of position and fit things like keeping my elbows tucked in drown out the impact of tube shapes.

If you just want a fun bike to ride, I would just buy whichever one you like the look of best. After all riding the bike is what matters.

I can see that ratio(stack to reach) in smaller size - (LTK is 1.37 in S size and LCR is 1.43 in 50size) are much more than in bigger (in sizes 54 are mostly equal LRC 1.45 and LTK - 1.48) size so probably I will ended up with LCR018-D.

Quote from: Sakizashi on May 22, 2026, 08:37:15 AM
This bike has race-bike geometry. The handling and body position are different.

For a rider capable of using this bike's geometry, the aero difference is huge compared to something like the LCR018 and would easily overshadow any frame aero benefits (i.e., wouldn't surprise me if it were 10x). Besides, neither this bike nor the Light Carbon has been aero tested, so no one knows which is more aero anyway.

shhhh right now I am a bit confused what to choose. Maily because  LCR018-D with front derailleur will fit 38mm tires only. I was wondering with 40 but it just can handle 1x shifting and I would build 2x. Would i feel much difference between 35mm(this frame max tire clearence than 38mm LC)?
So i never had any better bike than my current corratec superbow world cup from 2005 which I use as a roadbike. Kinda funny but never had budget and also it was never a problem for me to just have fun with cycling. Last week I did 250km on it with 2.0 mtb tires mainly on road but mostly I did short ride 30-60km (90-95 on road,5-10% forrest,gravel). As beginner i did a lot of mistakes such as i bought bike 1 size too big so i ended up with too big bike with cutted all bridge pads so needed to buy new bridge with 45up degrees to ride comfortable.
So as you said you would be suprise if this could be 10x more aero than LCR018-D then what would you suggest to buy.

Quote from: chubv on May 22, 2026, 12:40:03 PM
Finished my build last sunday.

Shimno 105Di2
Elitewheels ENT 38mm

Weight: 8.05kg (low weight was not a priority) without, pedals, mounts, bartape

what is max rear tire clearnence with front 105 Derailleur?

Quote from: wietrzol on May 22, 2026, 11:39:34 AM
Wendy offers me c53db for 479$ + 120$ shipment to PL. Its not possibile to ship it together with the frame in one package.
Have you received your wheels already? If so, any thoughts?

I am looking for something for the same frame and probably will go with Serenade. I didn't contact yet but it will probably cost around 600$ at 1170g of weight.

You can go to topic--->> Re: best Aero wheels for sub 1000$
and see  ---> Reply #6   from @Sander2177

He recommend is as good option for 38-40mm tire, also I am from PL

Quote from: fallingdown on May 17, 2026, 04:22:33 PM
I went through this entire thread and I think I will be picking up this frame. I ride mostly gravel but would like a road bike for long long road rides, this frame ticks many boxes. I intend to use this as more of a endurance ride and not a slammed racer.

Going with size a L after comparing the numbers on  with what i currently ride ( i measure 5.10 feet ) 

https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/rodeo-labs-flaanimal-5-0-2020-56-cm,longteng-ltk266-d-sl-2025-l/ for anyone interested.

I was hoping to have anyone could chime in on M vs L sizing since i am kind of between.

Other take aways from reading:

1. Ditch the included headset and get a FSA N.55
2. Sugru for the holes
3. T47 85.5 internal
4. aprotobike for a seat post cover
5. possibly having to brake posts ?
6. as of 5/2026 I am expecting to cost 850-950 usd shipped

Anything else I should be aware of for a painless build?

Since you want gravel/endurance ride bike why wouldn't you choose Lightcarbon: LCR018-D over this frame? I am in the same situation as You and comfort/ more tire clearence/ aero/ maintaining speed in this case is more important to me than less bike weight since i will not use this bike on climb.

Quote from: Sakizashi on May 20, 2026, 07:32:04 PM
First off--I don't own superlight wheels, though I have seen some of them in person, and ridden them

I want to be careful here as well, since a lot of this comes down to usage and preference, and I feel like Light Bicycle, Zen, DFS, and XMCS reps might call me out for these comments. It's my opinion that the H Works and similar hubs out there are not a higher-end product; they are more of a price-point product, and the ones designed to be lightweight are trading on stiffness and, ultimately, durability to achieve what they are doing. Rather than comparing these ultralight wheels to Roval or Enve, I feel like a more appropriate comparison would be to Extralite. What these companies have achieved is extraordinary--they have pushed the envelope for ultralight wheels and lead the market in that regard.

That said, you still need to take a step back and ask about the cost and if you were to make a wheel that was designed to stand up to race conditions, whether those are a cat 5 crit or a pro road race, if you would still design the same ultralight wheel. My observation about my wheels, which I believe are DFS XL rims on R3 Hubs, is that they are more flexible than I would like. Not in a way that is noticeable on the road, but clearly more flexible than my Roval or Ascent wheels. They did go out of true--something those wheels never do / did despite more mileage. Its my belief that for my use, the R2 hub would have been a better choice because of its geometry. With wheel stiffness resulting from multiple factors, including hub geometry, spoke count, and spoke type, it's generally hard to call out a specific property. However, between the R3 and R2 hubs, which have the same lacing pattern and spoke count, I believe I would have benefited from the R2 design's better bracing angle and more equal spoke tensions.

Compared to the 20/20 carbon spoke wheels I have seen, I believe my R3-based wheels are noticeably laterally stiffer, which would be going in the wrong direction, as I personally would prioritize stiffness and reliability over even 200g.

As for why I like the THR Industries Hubs, I think they are among the few (Chinese or not) that are comparable to the Enve Innerdrive, Vision PRS, and Roval Aero hubs in terms of helping build a high-performance wheel.

Maybe it would sound selfish but this is why i asked here about reccomendation. There are so many of option and brand that I don't even know what to choose nor I don't want to spend another month to choose. This is why i created this post. Since I am ambitious and want to know everything in my own on every topic but probably the differences of each wheels will be too small to feel them so spent a month to learn anything again of wheels and see the diffrence just stupid idea for me. I dont even know if aero wheels is good option if i don't ride at 35+km/h average speed.
I will be trully thankfull if you post few example with durable models with good weight and good money.


edit: what is the point of buying sub 1000g grams wheels if for example of course Enve SES 4.5 PRO weight are about 1300g(any many more from "top" western brands. How to compare chineese wheels to western brands in terms of stiffnes and bulletproof/tensioning the spokes? How chineese sub 1300g for 700-900$ are diffent than other western brand?

edit2: Since 600$ wheels vs 1200$ will have 10-20sec gains for 40km bike ride when I am pissing 2 times(1-2min loss) then I will probably lower my budget from 1000$ to sub 600-700. I am not sure if there is so much adventages to spend this amount of money for marginal gains since I am amateur - yesterday bike ride at my Corattec superbow world cup 2006 was 250km in 10.42h (stops for shopping,pissing, eating inluded)

edit3: I will use this wheels for probably max clearence so 38-40mm so i don't know if road wheels or gravel will fit

Quote from: Sakizashi on May 19, 2026, 10:53:11 AM
I tried to get some data on my "best guess" wheelset for aero/lightweight last year.

https://chinertown.com/index.php?topic=6243.0

These rims are available now in the SUXL layup if you want light rims. If I were to do it over again today, I would probably also get R2 hubs instead of R3 due to centerlock and higher flange heights, and get either CXRay or completely hidden nipple carbon spokes. Should be close to 1K or under depending on the options you go with.

The sub 1kg for 1k$ is kinda crazy, the question is do I need that light wheels since I will not climb and how duty they are compared to other 1200-1300g wheels.
I would rather have 1200g bombproof wheels than 1000g where i would be aware of something happen and tighten the spokes every year

Since there are so many brands I don't know what exacly to choose.
I am just in planning phase of building my first chineese bike. Right now i am riding at my corratec superbow from 2006 and yearly doing 7-10k.
For now i have choosen the frame and it will be Lightcarbon - LCR018-D maily because of aero + 38mm tire width. I will spend 90+% time in roads in Poland which are not so smooth in some places and +5-10% time in the forrest,gravel etc when needed. I am living in center of Poland where is no mountain, this is why i choosen aero frame instead of more light/climbing bike. I would love to close whole project in sub 3k$ and weight around 8kg included pedals and bootle cages so probably budget for wheels will be somewhere middle in 750-1100$
There are so many brands and i don't know what exacly choose.
From my reaserch I love that ICAN have DT swiss 240 hubs because I don't know if other chineese hubs are great. I was looking also at 9velo, elite and xmcs and other i can't remember so if you have any experience please help me