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Replacement frame has been shipped. I'll keep this updated as I get the replacement.
Well, if you’re looking for something like this, as in an aero rim brake frame with internal routing and if you’re fine with owning a replica then yes, I can recommend it.
Make sure to read this thread and be prepared for the issues you might have. But I love riding this bike. And I particularly love the geometry and handling as well as the ergonomics of the bars. Also to me this bike represents peak rim brake, the end of an era. Just as Campy 12sp represents peak mechanical groupsets for me. That’s why I wanted to build one. But I would never be able to spend 6grand on a real Dogma F frame nor do I expect this VB frame to perform the same.
It’s just a nice bike to ride. And a fast one at that.
The wheels are fully custom. Built by me. Front hub is an old Roval that I polished. Rear hub is Novatec. Sapim CX Ray spokes. 60mm deep, 30mm wide, 23mm internal. Grooved brake track. About 1450g weight. I sourced the rims from an Aliexpress seller that I’ve had good experience with in the past.
I fit 12sp chainrings to my cranks today. 52/36 teeth combo. This seems to have fixed my issues. Chain runs quieter now. Front shifting is smooth. No chain skipping anymore on the small ring. I rode up a steep incline and everything was smooth. I deliberately tried to make the chain skip but it wouldn’t. So all good now.
I discussed my issue over on the WW forum. Graeme Freestone King, pro mechanic and UK Campag distributor chimed in. He confirmed that my chainrings are to blame. There's already limited compatibility between original Campag 11sp rings and 12sp chains, usually at least resulting in accelerated wear. Now I'm running aftermarket chainrings, so compatibility is unknown. Shimano as well advises against combining 11sp chainrings and 12sp chains. I'm switching over to 12sp chainrings now.
I did another ride yesterday. I got around 400k on this groupset now and I can definitely see wear marks on bot chainrings that weren't there when I was using 11sp chains. I was hoping I could get around swapping chainrings, but oh well. So be it.
I think it is widely accepted that with 12sp, you can use 11sp chainrings and people even use 12sp chains to quieten down their 11sp drivetrains, but it might not work perfectly. Remember how much trouble the pro peloton had when Shimano introduced 12sp but couldn’t supply whole groupsets? The teams combined 12sp groups with 11sp powermeter cranksets. The result was that guys were dropping their chains left and right.
I think I just stumbled upon a particularly bad combination here.
Turns out my aftermarket 11sp chainrings don’t play well with 12sp chains. At least on the inner ring the chain skips on steep inclines. On the big ring it’s fine probably because the chain is engaging on more teeth.
I’ll replace the inner ring now with a Super Record 12sp one and see if that fixes things.
of course a pic... And I got big hands. So I think the bars should be fine. I was going to get some finish line grip paste. I have the juintech gts. I got the jagwire cables. I need to order the saddle... I totally forgot about it. Also I am all torso and small legs. So I bought another set of top tube spacers and I mght cut the seat post if I can drop it more.
Woo got my frame!!! mint and turquoise with pearl white. The paint has all the issues that everyone says. but I still like it over the black. I am going to add some stickers... woo pride... to the parts I dont like... and need to get grip paste and lube. What does everyone suggest for those??
also to see if there is any major issues with the frame as I built it. thats the scary part... to see if the frame I just got is decent. or is there is alinemnt issues like in the BB... I still dont know why they dont use a 1 peice BB>
Hi,
I am counfused about the size of the bike .
my height is 172cm
And my curent bike had the following measure :
reach: 450mm
effective top tube: 515 mm
top tube: 465mm (short size because Giant TCR1 (2005) compact frame)
If I take my reach and effective top tube, the VB-R-218 size would be between XS or S.
Does that make sense ?
Told myself I'd take break from super budget frames, but am very tempted to pull the trigger LoL
Still looking forward to a community inspired bike frame, i.e. "ChinerTown" (...to agree on a suitable name) official frame with UCI certification, on which all our needs are met
@madmaxhow deep is your seatpost inserted into the frame when you had the issues with the frame splitting? I'm starting to worry if I should get a longer seatpost, since it is extended quite far.
