Yes when I first got it, I had that issue (probably due to some of the bad roads I ride on). They suggested I try 10nm. Instead I used medium strength thread locker on on the bolts and set it at 8nm. Have not had an issue since

Pat the differences I am seeing  (geometry geeks) between SL8 vs winspace gen ii, size L: winspace stack is 4.5mm shorter and reach is 7mm shorter. Winspace stem sizes tend to be 5mm more than speacialized. There are also some other handlebar options that go up to 140 (farsports, avian falcon). seems to me the differences are a wash

Quote from: patliean1 on July 02, 2024, 08:54:55 AM
I was able to strike a deal locally on my Tarmac SL8 frameset, at price pretty close to the new Tavelo Arow, SEKA, Bross, Winspace

To me this was absolutely a no brainer. And as you can imagine the riding dynamic is night and day. I have not really ridden much of my Chinese counterparts since then.

Pat winspace needs to send you their latest t1550 (gen 2) so we can do a proper comparison. I have read they have made some significant changes even as far as the gemotry. Their large is inline with with your tarmac sl8

Quote from: PLA on June 16, 2024, 07:46:09 PM
You mean how he faced the SL8 and voided the warranty of the frame? I trust that idiot as far as I can throw him.

Any update on this issue

@ PaxiH Heard similar said about bikes like (high modulus carbon) the Sworks Tarmac SL7, SL8. Seka Exceed RDC, Cannondale LAB71 SuperSix Evo. Racall in a cam nicholls examination of the seka Exceed RDC it was pointed out that one needs to be more careful with these frames because, vs a low modulous carbin bike, they won't fare as well in a crash

Try this direct contact [email protected]

Regarding the play issue which develops during the ride, would suggest you apply medium strength thread locker to the stem bolts. Screws prabably untightening due to road vibrations

Been eyeing it also, they told me they can ship a size 52 (LCR017-) in 2 days after I placed my order. However they reminded me they only have a limited supply on hand. Really not into getting frames painted, the naked color I have found works, especially since it helps me to hide new purchases from my wife. Really would like to see feedback from others who have made the purchase regarding the ride feel, especially how it compares to known brands

Looking for feedback from persons  owning LCR017-D (light version), how does it ride? Is it stiff? Any regrets re the purchase and if yes why?

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ac-FVFzAk4xqTcZhqnGxhNm7nb3i73_V?usp=drive_link   showing images of rim after impact. Pothole was obscured by water due to rain. Pic of  pothole taken a few days later

Quote from: CJ on January 29, 2024, 08:27:33 PM
UPDATE (Day 22) - The nipples and rim tape arrived today. Dropping off at my wheel builder tomorrow.  Will also have him inspect the front wheel.

CJ I take it things went well and your wheel builder was able to to get the job done? Have they provided any feedback on how different it is from regular spokes? Had a recent situation where I ended up in a pot hole and my rear wheel broke hence will have to be rebuilt

Quote from: patliean1 on February 20, 2024, 10:14:59 PM
I am currently battling a warranty issue with Giant, regarding my (only 4 month old) Propel Advanced Pro. It's a story for another day. I'm giving them a chance to do right before I make a video on it, but the experience has left a really bad taste in my mouth for having spent $4000 all in. Warranty and dealer support is supposed to be what comes with the high price tag right lol?

Had I purchased my Tavelo Attack frameset (Nich Legend4/Adapt AT-B01) before my Propel and knew the performance would be very similar out on the road...I could have saved myself not buying a Propel.

While the Elilee Blize isn't the most ground breaking looking frame, I appreciate Elilee's approach. Perceived quality seems to be there. Gonna probably sell my Propel once warrantied, and use the money to build an Elilee. Or an SL8 comp 
To me the sweet spot for competitive Chinese bikes is the $1500-$2000 range.

@patliean1m since your review I have noticed pandapodium lists Tavelo Attack as out of stock

Quote from: boxof13 on February 20, 2024, 06:21:27 PM
I had difficult time deciding between SEKA and Elilee, as I thought both are good option. I ended up getting an Elilee. I have not been able to ride the Elilee Blize outside yet, since it's still a little cold up in the northern part of the US (I am a fair weather rider).

One thing that might be overlooked is how easy it is to actually purchase the frame. I kid you not, I sent three emails, Instagram DM, FB message to official SEKA accounts and I hear no response. This was me trying to buy the frame directly. Meanwhile, I got prompt response from Elilee and they have been responsive and answer all my questions even before I decided to get the frame.

Yes I also explored the Seka option almost a year ago (between may and july 2023), it was near impossible to get a response. At first a sales person did respond and mentioned they would shortly (within 2 months) offer direct purchase via their website. I am then near pulling the trigger and then no response. Tried them a few more times for about 6 weeks and then gave up

See no reason to go with options outside of the mainstream (Shimano, Look, Time). You can get a Ultegra spd sl pedal for 80 or a 105 one for about 60 via ebay. Amazon has Time pedals for around 40.00  Have tried the route you are trying and ended up going back to the original. Have experienced  non original pedals {spd sl)that came not properly greased; Not as easy to clip in and out as the original. Not all cleats are manufactured with the strict standard as the original. Have some China speedplay pedals (titanium) that I purchased six months ago that have started to rust(note I do not recommend speedplay, the platform is not wide enough). Honestly my experience is you do feel the difference (originals vs copies)

@hazzer19 how does it ride? ie How responsive to your pedaling (stiffness)? What's the weight of your build. Have to say kudos to VB, they are now good at painting frames.