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I recently bought a set of these from Carbonal

https://carbonal.net/en-gb/collections/carbon-road-bike-wheels/products/700c-gravel-bike-dt-swiss-240-hub-29mm-internal-clincher-wheels?variant=45290709647514

I've only ridden them a few times including a longish gravel ride in the a lake district but my initial impressions are very positive both with the wheels and the service from Carbonal. They were well packed too

I really like the paintless finish of the 6k weave

I'm pretty sure they will do custom build if you want different hubs etc

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Here's my final set up and build details

Shimano GRX di2 11 speed,
GRX brakes
46-11 cassette
XT derailleur
46t Stone chainring on rotor 3d30 cranks
Carbonal gravel wheels with 29mm internal
Specialized Terra , 47mm measured at 50mm
Bontrager RSL 35/38 cm bars
Look S track pedals
Deda zero1 stem
Pro Falcon saddle
Leyzene cages


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I've run a 2x 50-34 and 46-34 using a mixture of a 11 speed Shimano GRX rear mech and initially an ultegra front mech before swapping it out for a GRX front mech to gain a tiny increase in tyre clearance.

With the 50-34 used on road and the 46-34 used for gravel both set ups works really well despite my less than ideal chain-line.

I've subsequently changed to a Di2 1x 46 : 46-11 set up with a MTB rear mech. For a mixture of increasing the tyre clearance but also I wanted to reduce the chances of chain drop, especially towards the back end of races when I get tired and my brain gets foggy.

If you go with the Ultegra rear mech it might be worth looking into getting the spring tension increased if you haven't already. It was something I did on my CX bike with the 1st gen di2 rear mechs to help with 1x chain retention

https://www.parktool.com/en-int/blog/repair-help/rear-derailleur-overhaul


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Here's another picture from a different angle

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Here you go, there is 2-2.5mm space between the chainring and chainstay, I'll probably add another 0.5mm to the chainset once I've got everything dialed.

From memory I had about 3mm gap when it was set up 2x with a 50-34( I think I mentioned the gap in an earlier post)

I measured the gap between the tyres and frame and even with the increase in tyre width to 51mm I've still got 4mm of space each side, which surprised me




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Thanks for the replies

I sorted out the 1x chainring issue with a Stone zero offset chainring.I'm really impressed with the quality and finish and it came with what look like chainring bolts specific to the chainring as when I tried to use them on my CX bike with another chainring they were too long. I've still got to shorten the chain a little bit and fine tune the chainset sitting but it handled a hard hilly ride while not optimal with any issues and slipping.

I've also upgraded the wheels and got a set of 29mm internal wheels from Carbonal which has bumped up the 47mm specialized Tracers I use to 51/52mm I do like the monster truck vibes but I may have to look into downsizing to the new 45mm tracers if there's any tyre rub

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Going back to chainrings has anyone managed to successfully fit a 46t 1x chain ring?

I tried to swamp out the 2x 50-34 set up to a 1x 46t, both set ups using Praxis chainrings but the 1x chain ring is almost touching the frame. For both set ups I used the same chainset spacers were are maxed out to make the rotor cranks mirror the chain line of GRX chain sets

From what I understand , the 1x looks to have a 3mm offset to reduce the chain line,  although this is not listed on the praxis website it seems pretty common in 1x  chainrings when I was looking into this last night.

I'll go back to 2x for the time being and start to looking for zero offset 1x chainrings as they must exist?

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: January 27, 2025, 06:09:56 AM »
There is a minimum 5mm of space all round with the 47mm tracers which is plenty for fire-track roads and far more space than I had on my TCX with 42mm pathfinder tyres in and they worked perfectly without any clogging issues

From my experience of muddy CX races if the course is claggy it really doesn't matter how much space you have between the tyre and frame, mud will fill it eventually

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: January 05, 2025, 10:07:43 AM »
I fitted some 47mm Specialized tracer tyres which measured up as 47mm and there is room to spare

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: September 12, 2024, 03:50:39 AM »
I don't know how tall you are but I'm 179cm and set my saddle height at 75cm from the centre of the BB.

I have a 54cm and there is still plenty of seatpost left to raise the height if needed.

The tip of the stealth saddle is 5-6cm behind the BB which lets me get into a decently aggressive position, there is still a bit of room to move it forwards or backwards.

I've still to settle on my reach but currently have a 11cm stem which isn't far off

I've not had chance to ride it off-road in the couple of months I've been riding it but with road wheels and 28mm tyres it feels great . Subjectively, maybe a little less responsive than my road bike but it is definitely more compliant and it's no slower when comparing rides.

if you can it might be worth getting a bike fit on a jig and dialing in a position before committing to buying a frame as it sounds like you've been making various sized and styles of frames work.

One thing to take into consideration when measuring the stack is that you have have to add 10-20mm to take into account the headset cap for the internal routing or making space for the cables to enter the headset depending on the style you go for.

I fitted this token headset as it has seals aroung the cable entry ports,it adds 20mm or so to the stack height

https://www.orrobikes.com/product/token-cablebox-headset-semi-internal

hope that helps

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: September 10, 2024, 04:59:18 AM »
Has anyone set up their Graro for cyclo-cross duties?

It was my initial plan to use mine for Gravel and cross as I did with my TCX, but looking at the seatpost design around the clamping area I'm concerned it won't be strong enough to take the impacts of repeated remounts and impacts from poor line choices when I'm tired towards the end of races.

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There is quite a bit of info on the Graro thread

https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4766.30.html

I bought a Rotor T47 internal BB for mine and it works well with the Rotor 3D30 crank set and the ultegra derailleurs I fitted. I did have to space the crank out a little, I think the frame was designed around the GRX groupset which has a different offset

https://rotoruk.co.uk/v1.asp?prd=262149&cat=1054&ms1=GS1&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI66iHo7KBiAMVKQ0GAB2kxB69EAQYASABEgIruPD_BwE


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First ride on my Graro today, its currently set up with ultegra 11 speed and road tyres.

I still need to dial in the position but my first impressions were very good, despite the gravel geometry it felt fast and snappy on the road

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I had a play about with the spacers on the crank and got it all nice and snug

It's only missing a few mm to be workable with a 52 tooth chainring. I might look into getting a 50-34 set up,for me I think that would be a great option for some of the faster gravel events. At the Dirty Reiver I found I was either spinning out or grinding at points with 46-36 combo and 34-11 cassette

I've just got the brakes to set up and I should be good to go  :)

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