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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: September 12, 2024, 03:50:39 AM »
I don't know how tall you are but I'm 179cm and set my saddle height at 75cm from the centre of the BB.

I have a 54cm and there is still plenty of seatpost left to raise the height if needed.

The tip of the stealth saddle is 5-6cm behind the BB which lets me get into a decently aggressive position, there is still a bit of room to move it forwards or backwards.

I've still to settle on my reach but currently have a 11cm stem which isn't far off

I've not had chance to ride it off-road in the couple of months I've been riding it but with road wheels and 28mm tyres it feels great . Subjectively, maybe a little less responsive than my road bike but it is definitely more compliant and it's no slower when comparing rides.

if you can it might be worth getting a bike fit on a jig and dialing in a position before committing to buying a frame as it sounds like you've been making various sized and styles of frames work.

One thing to take into consideration when measuring the stack is that you have have to add 10-20mm to take into account the headset cap for the internal routing or making space for the cables to enter the headset depending on the style you go for.

I fitted this token headset as it has seals aroung the cable entry ports,it adds 20mm or so to the stack height

https://www.orrobikes.com/product/token-cablebox-headset-semi-internal

hope that helps

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: September 10, 2024, 04:59:18 AM »
Has anyone set up their Graro for cyclo-cross duties?

It was my initial plan to use mine for Gravel and cross as I did with my TCX, but looking at the seatpost design around the clamping area I'm concerned it won't be strong enough to take the impacts of repeated remounts and impacts from poor line choices when I'm tired towards the end of races.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Where to buy T47 bottom bracket for Ican Gharo
« on: August 19, 2024, 10:46:59 AM »
There is quite a bit of info on the Graro thread

https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4766.30.html

I bought a Rotor T47 internal BB for mine and it works well with the Rotor 3D30 crank set and the ultegra derailleurs I fitted. I did have to space the crank out a little, I think the frame was designed around the GRX groupset which has a different offset

https://rotoruk.co.uk/v1.asp?prd=262149&cat=1054&ms1=GS1&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI66iHo7KBiAMVKQ0GAB2kxB69EAQYASABEgIruPD_BwE


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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: July 28, 2024, 07:10:13 AM »
First ride on my Graro today, its currently set up with ultegra 11 speed and road tyres.

I still need to dial in the position but my first impressions were very good, despite the gravel geometry it felt fast and snappy on the road

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: July 15, 2024, 10:58:49 AM »
Quote from: KingLex on July 15, 2024, 07:52:31 AM
https://www.dyedbro.com/collections/gravel-all-road-frame-protection

Got it from R2 bike https://r2-bike.com/DYEDBRO-Gravel-Frame-Protection-Set-Stay-Free-matte-black

Thanks, that's just what I was looking for

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: July 14, 2024, 03:54:25 AM »
I had a play about with the spacers on the crank and got it all nice and snug

It's only missing a few mm to be workable with a 52 tooth chainring. I might look into getting a 50-34 set up,for me I think that would be a great option for some of the faster gravel events. At the Dirty Reiver I found I was either spinning out or grinding at points with 46-36 combo and 34-11 cassette

I've just got the brakes to set up and I should be good to go  :)

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: July 11, 2024, 02:45:33 AM »
I'll take some pics over the weekend once the 46 chaining is on so you can get a better idea of the clearances.

I'm going to look at some 47mm Trace Pro's, I've got some 42mm pathfinders which are good and very puncture resistant but I'd like something with a bit more bite. Plus they got better rolling resistance figures than the pathfinder which is a bit counter intuitive and they're also relatively cheap.

https://www.specialized.com/gb/en/tracer-pro-2bliss-ready/p/156476?color=231012-156476&searchText=00019-4312

https://granfondo-cycling.com/specialized-tracer-pro-review/

the paint looks decently done, I don't think you'll be dispointed

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: July 10, 2024, 08:40:28 AM »
Quote from: Asco on July 10, 2024, 06:18:24 AM
Nice to see some big gears :D. Makes sense that the 52-36 wouldn't fit as standard, looks like that crankset has a narrow Shimano road chainline. Pushing it out 2mm puts it in line with e.g. a GRX crankset. Unfortunate about the FD height. Would a 50 fit do you think?

Edit: A bit of googling let me to this, might be a solution? https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/store/AeroCoach-front-derailleur-spacer-p202234350

I think a 50 would squeeze in , I only put the road crank on as I had just stripped down my road bike and it was to hand.

thanks for the link, I did look at those and further down the line I may get something like that but for now I'll just put on the 46-36 chainrings I used on my cross bike for the Dirty Reiver, they'll work a treat and save going down a rabbit hole for a little while. I need to save my energy for agonizing over which 47-50mm tyres to buy

The reason I went for the EU warehouse option is so that I wouldn't have to deal with customs. It was a peace of mind thing. In hindsight that was a really bad decision. The newest development is that Perry has offered to send a frame directly from China instead, guaranteeing no extra fees. "Due to the serious congestion and blockage in shipping".

The shipping I got was inclusive of customs duty and was included in the price, it was surprisingly quick once the frame was boxed up. If I get on with the frame once it is built up I can see myself getting another frame with all the mounting holes filled in and setting it up solely for cross duties

I have accepted this as I don't really have much of a choice at this point. He's saying I will receive it in 15 working days, i.e. 3 weeks. That means it will show up just as my summer vacation is over  :-\.

looking at my tracking info, it took 13 days in total door to door. Did you stick with the same colour?

Will definitely take some pics when the build is done!

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: July 10, 2024, 05:42:52 AM »
Quote from: Asco on July 08, 2024, 07:00:49 AM
Update on my purchase:

I bought the frame as a preorder from the EU warehouse back on April 30, for delivery June 30 (this was the only option).

On June 8, I wrote to Ican (Perry) to confirm that the frame was on the way as planned. I was told that the frame was on the way, and expected to reach the warehouse around June 30. Note that the preorder said "for delivery June 30", so this is already a delay.

On June 26, I again asked for a status update and was told the frame would be arriving at the warehouse "these days".

After not having heard anything I wrote again 4 days ago with no reply. I then wrote again this morning, and was told "Sorry for the delay. The frame is still on the way" with no further explanation. I find this whole process very frustrating. Of course a bit of a delay is not a big deal but when I preordered it 2 months out there is really no excuse for a delay. Combined with them not wanting to tell me that what's going on is pretty frustrating.

Update: I have now been informed the frames are in customs check. Hopefully it won't be long.

Hopefully you'll get the frame soon and send some pics of the build   :)

I looked at the pre-order option before I placed my order and couldn't see any benefit as it was the same price but without the customization option or the colour option I wanted.

With the for customization the turn around time for me was about 9 weeks including a $50 labour day discount

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: July 10, 2024, 05:31:18 AM »
Quote from: KingLex on June 28, 2024, 10:36:46 AM
About 8mm clearance in the fork

Stone 44mm chainring arrived, no extra spacers necessary.

looks good, I was able to fit my rotor 3d30 chainset with 52-36, it needed an extra 2mm spacers , sadly there isn't enough height in the FD mount to use it.

I'm waiting on the getting the fork cut down before completing the build over the weekend but so far it has been really straight forward.

Where did you get the chainstay protector from, the design looks cool?

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: June 22, 2024, 08:09:29 AM »
Quote from: KingLex on June 22, 2024, 06:23:02 AM
Small update, 42t chainring on backorder, installed 44t again with 2mm spacer.
I am thinking of ordering a 44t Pass Quest chainring, it has 3mm offset. I believe Sram has 6mm offset, so Pass Quest should work without spacer ?

And some pics as road set up, those are 28mm Michelin PowerCup tyres but measure 30mm

Some bike info:
ICAN HBG01 handlebar 420x110
ICAN Aero 52 WD wheelset
Sram Apex shifters, brake, chain, crankset
Sram Force Rear derailleur
Sram Paceline 160mm rotors
Sram XG 1250 10-36 cassette
Elite Leggero Carbon bottlecages
Selli Italia Flite Boost Gravel TI 316 saddle
Look Kéo Blade carbon pedals
OG-EVKIN CM-005 Carbon Computer Mount (the wahoo insert was really tight and a part broke off, replaced it with another insert I had lying around, I hope the mount itself is of beter quality)
ZTTO chain guide (never had a dropped chain on my previous gravel bike except my last race  where it happened twice, that bike had Apex mechanical groupset)
Weight: 8.45kg (with Wahoo Bolt v2 installed)

Very nice,have you been out for a ride on it, if so what were your first impressions?

I remember the 3mm offset SRAM chainrings being mentioned on the WW giant revolt thread, it might be worth having a look if you haven't already.

I'll be using a P2Max power meter on a rotor crank set from my road bike.I'm hoping to be able to leave the 52-36 chainrings on , mainly as I want to leave my TCX set up as is so I can compare the 2 bikes and dial my fit in before I sell the TCX frameset.

Fingers cross all the parts will be hear by Monday so I can start building it up

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: June 19, 2024, 12:34:50 PM »
Quote from: KingLex on June 19, 2024, 11:27:35 AM
It's the "celeste" colorway.
No issue's, one of the easiest builds I have ever done. Only had to route brake cables as I'm running sram axs.
One thing I also need to do is tighten the bottom bracket a little more. Didn't have the right tool for this.
Cover plate is from aliexpress, but isn't the right size. I had to cut it to fit, it will do for now. I also put a plug in the rear derailleur hole.

Ah, on the drop down mention on Ican's website white.

I wonder if this kit from Scott will work
https://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/addict_gravel_cable_guide_kit_(2022)-9164.

I just need to get my head around all the different types of internal headsets and got one ordered. I like the look of the token S-box, I just need to check with Orro that it will work ok.

I'll be popping over to the bike shop to get the BB and chainset torqued

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: June 19, 2024, 10:35:33 AM »
Quote from: KingLex on June 19, 2024, 10:22:18 AM
Not really, my mind was set on 1x for this build.
I'm stuck for now, waiting on chainring so I can finish the bike. Only need to install chainring, chain and bar tape.

Nice build ....is that a custom colour?

chainrings aside did you have any major issues when putting it together?

where did you get the cover plate for the front derailleur cable hole or is that just an optical illusion

Apart from a headset I've just ordered all the parts I need to make a start putting mine together

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: June 19, 2024, 09:45:19 AM »
Quote from: KingLex on June 19, 2024, 06:06:09 AM
The "Graro" will replace my old road and gravelbike
On the road bike I had 50/34 with 11-28 cassette, On the gravelbike a 38t with 11-36 cassette.
I now have a wheelset with 10-36 for road and 11-44 for gravel (gravel wheelset had shimano body)
When looking at gearcharts the 44t seemed to give me the same gears I had on my previous bikes.
Will try the 42t first, don't really want to be messing around with spacers.
were you not tempted to set up your bike 2x .

I know a lot depends on local terrain and the type of riding you do but I've really enjoyed using my cross bike with a 46-36 chainset rather than the 38 tooth 1x st up I have for cx races which surprised me to be honest.

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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« on: June 18, 2024, 10:33:24 AM »
Quote from: KingLex on June 18, 2024, 09:54:05 AM
I only used the spacers that were provided, 2.5mm non drive, 5.5mm drive side.
Tyres are 44mm Tufo Thundero, they measure 45mm and I have about 6mm space left between tyre and chainstay

thanks, I quickly fitted my gravel wheels with 42mm pathfinders and there is loads of room

It might be worth playing around with the spacers and adding another 2-3mm to the drive side and seeing if it works ok. I've . It seems pretty common for the pro riders to fit 46t chainrings or 52-36 road cranks on bikes that were designed around grx chainsets. I looked at the giant revolts after seeing their riders do this but couldn't get confirmation from Giant how they spaced them to achieve this.

I'll have a play about with my frame and crankset and let you know how I get on

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