I have about the same wheels as you although mine are 50/55mm. 3.1 carbon spokes, 20/20.
I am about 78kg.
I just tried the deflection test and can't get it anywhere near the stay. Maybe 2mm of movement, max.
My wheels are quite stiff in a sprint. My sprint power is just shy of 1400 watts and I don't feel anything I would describe as flex in the rear.
My frame is a Speeder 55d size 510, or Medium.
I wanted to share my experience with a set of ZEN 60/55 lightweight rims and hopefully get some input from riders with similar specs.
First off, credit where it’s due: ZEN has handled everything so far in a very professional and supportive way. Every time an issue came up, they responded accordingly and covered the costs to resolve it. That level of service deserves recognition.
Background / setup:
- ZEN 60/55 lightweight rims
- 24mm internal width
- SR270 hub
- 20x 3.1mm (2.1gr) carbon spokes (front & rear)
- System weight limit: 135kg
- Rider: 85kg, FTP ~340W, sprint ~1300W
- Tires: 30mm road + occasionally 38mm gravel (on a frame rated max 38mm)
Initial issue:
After the first rides, I noticed the rear drive-side spokes rotating (bladed spokes losing alignment). ZEN offered to cover a local rebuild/straightening -> great service. Unfortunately, the issue came back twice.
At that point, I suspected the spoke–hub interface might be the root cause (spokes rotating under load). ZEN agreed and sent a new hub + T-head spokes to eliminate that variable. Again, fully covered.
Current situation:
With the new setup, the spoke rotation issue seems resolved. However, under high load (especially sprinting), I’m now noticing:
- Audible movement/“working” from the rear wheel
- Tire rubbing the chainstay (this was already the case with the original spokes)
- Overall feeling of flex under power (this was already the case with the original spokes)
Given my weight and power numbers, I’m starting to question whether this wheel configuration is simply too light / not stiff enough for more aggressive riding.
What I’m trying to figure out:
- Are other riders (~80–90kg, similar power) experiencing comparable flex with lightweight carbon-spoke setups?
- Is this a known limitation of this kind of build (low spoke count + carbon spokes)?
- Or does this still point to something being off in my specific rear wheel?
To be clear: this is not a complaint about ZEN’s service, they’ve been excellent throughout. I’m mainly trying to understand whether I’m running into a design limitation versus a product-specific issue.
If others with similar rider profiles have experience with this type of wheel (especially carbon spokes / low spoke count), I’d really appreciate your input.