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Expect the unexpected….lol
Ok…GeX installed…and had also kind of interesting issue.
I did install a 12sp Shimano 710 cassette…which seemed to be okish on a normal 10/11/12 speed road freehub.
No spacer…
Without chain, derailleur was physical unable to move lower than 2. sprocket…
Now…install chain.…then, check limit screw to be no factor…then go to iniatial setup.
Somehow for me the adjustment of the 1. sprocket did not work.
By accident I shifted up to 12th sprocket and started initial setup again…now the derailleur thought
my 12th would be my 1st….(there is always a pop up to confirm if you are sure….lol)
Anyhow…I was able to fine tune this „1st“ sprocket all the way down to its correct position.

So…if you still struggle…you my try this.
Shift whatever speed …. 3rd or 4th…now start initial setup…confirm this to be 1st gear and then
finetune it all the way down to its realworld position!
That worked for me…
From there all gears worked correctly!

And I can confirm the short cage rear GeX weight is 403g






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Hmm…did set up the eds tx road 2x11 and have the geX ready to build.
Now with the eds tx there is a function to avoid Xcross chaining like going beyond 3 when on the
little ring…
You can deselect it in the app….at least for the 2x11 eds…not sure if this also applies to geX

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I think there is no general consensus…just personal experiences.

That said, using it on my Gravel with 46/30+11/34 11spd…
Absolute no issues, working flawless…

Maybe 2 points which one should consider…
STIs rather on the smaller side compared to modern others (kind of first Shimano di2s like)
Front derailleur not one of the strongest when shifting under power…

Still pretty happy with it…


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How about (if you can stand the branding) Bigrock Sohtea Superlight …?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 16, 2024, 03:36:07 PM »
Actually I do like GCperformance vid….showing off and comparing different brands in his shop…
With some of the points mentioned by PT…

And concerning QC…look over at a neighbour forum discussing SL8 fork „out of center wheel issues“…
Has also some funny conclusions there…

And lastly…still I think we might overestimate western market importance when looking at the huge Chinese market itself.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 16, 2024, 12:07:55 PM »
Come on guys…could we tune down a bit?
You may agree or disagree with someone, but still no need bullying other people…

Words are easy written which you would not use face2face….

Anyways….ping pong continues….

GCperformance reply online

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 15, 2024, 06:37:01 AM »
Well…might surprise but still…nobody is forced to go the Tavelo way…

Out of curiosity:
Who in this fred owns a Tavelo…? Because there is so much wisdom shared?
Myself (Attack)
Patrick (Attack)

Anybody else?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 14, 2024, 12:43:52 PM »
Tavelo’s  Response:

We would like to extend our gratitude to Alex for his time and thorough review of our Tavelo AROW frame set. Although the initial impressions of his two early production framesets were not entirely satisfactory, we have since addressed several of the issues he highlighted. Additionally, we are incorporating many of the constructive suggestions he mentioned in his video for further improvements. We take Alex’s feedback seriously and are committed to refining our product based on his valuable insights.

1. The production of Peak Torque’s frames was expedited to ensure the quickest delivery. However, this haste led to a lapse in quality control, particularly in the bottom bracket (BB) area. Improperly fitted BB covers allowed leakage of the transparent curing putty, which, once hardened, behaves like epoxy resin. (This putty is applied after sanding off the mold release agent and serves as a paint primer.)

The leakage compromised the BB area, leading to potential issues with tolerances and shape. To address this, we now use properly sized rubber sleeve covers for the BB area, preventing contamination of the BB surfaces. Our updated mass production process includes a 100% inspection of all installation surfaces to ensure they meet the required tolerances.

Additionally, regarding our supplied Bottom Brackets - we have worked with our BB supplier to implement rigorous tolerance and quality control procedures, preventing future complications with their products.

2. This issue arises from the O-ring on the expander, which necessitates high design accuracy. We aim to maintain a precise fit; however, if the installation is performed according to the provided instructions, the process should remain straightforward without complications. To enhance aerodynamic performance and achieve a sleeker head tube profile, we opted for a D-shaped steer tube. This decision necessitated the design of a custom D-shaped expander plug. The expander requires a specialized installation process, which we will detail in a comprehensive "User Instruction Manual" to facilitate proper installation and disassembly.

3. We were not anticipating any tolerance issues with the CNC steer shim from our supplier. Unfortunately, as Alex discovered, the shim was oversized. We have since addressed this by implementing a rigorous testing process to ensure each shim fits correctly.

4. As Alex noted, the seat post wedge was damaged during shipment, resulting in sharp edges on the wedge,the damage of BB plastic shell was also damaged during shipment.We have since enhanced our packaging to better protect all components during transit, ensuring they arrive in perfect condition and preventing similar issues in the future.

5. Future frame-sets will be shipped with two-piece headset cap & bolt, as well as the one-piece unit.Using one-piece headset cap requires adding grease according to "User Instruction Manual"

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 14, 2024, 12:42:05 PM »
Sorry for you Sir….
But hey….here to help, hope I do not infringe copyright:

Tavelo Official Response to Peak Torque  Concerns

Peak Torque Concerns

I have some more issues about the engineering:
1.   The bb shell is slightly undersized (40.87 to 40.92) but i will confirm a more accurate measurement
2.   The fork expander is very tight in the fork (even when loosened bolt)
3.   The black steerer shim does not fit in the gap. Too tight
4.   The seat post wedge clamp edges arrived damaged and are very sharp. They have damaged the seat-post. I always mention in videos that sharp corners that clamp on carbon need to be smoothed and chamfered on the engineering drawings.
5.   The one-piece headset top cap has too much friction and is difficult to preload. A separate bolt and cap would be better in my opinion.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 14, 2024, 11:14:28 AM »
Where did Tavelo isssue a statement?

In the comment section of both YT clips

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 14, 2024, 09:07:03 AM »
Now Tavelo did issue a statement on both channels addressing the issues…
Like it or not, but at least they participate and giving answers…
And blaming a seller for trying to sell parts…well, ok

Besides, out of curiosity, did PT ever challenge a western brand with such precision tools to check for industry standard?
I don’t want to go the whatabouthism alley….because shxxt is shxxt… just wondering…

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 14, 2024, 05:44:35 AM »
Now let’s grab some popcorn…
Nero Show online with latest response to PT…

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 13, 2024, 06:52:50 AM »
Ja, and from what I read, PT and PandaP and NeroCycl. will discuss those issues later on their channels and PC.
So let’s see.
not that I was in for this particular frame, as I am really pretty happy with the Tavelo Attack with mech. shifting. since
some 7000km…

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 13, 2024, 04:20:06 AM »
That really sounds and looks disappointing in so many ways.
Somehow feels like they just erased 2 previous generations of steps ahead into the right direction…generally speaking
for eastern developments.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 07, 2024, 01:00:10 AM »
One last time…and I am totally happy with anyone’s opinion.
My point is, that you cannot show me PT review here, but only lines from someone who read something somewhere else.
If you say, it’s a dog…because of this and that…ya, happy to read and appreciate you sharing experiences.

But I feel that lines as „it’s a dog“, „doesn’t look good (what he says)“ is a very low claim to be happy with.
In a world full of (un)social media BS flooding our brains I felt this place had/has a higher standard at least when
people sharing their own thoughts with what we love…riding bikes and new stuff.
Cheers

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