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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: XM Carbonspeed Ultra-Wide Gravel Wheelset with Titanium Spokes
« on: December 02, 2025, 11:47:52 AM »
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Yoeleo Altera G21
« on: October 07, 2025, 10:08:08 AM »
Ah…I doubt it…actually I am running a Tufo Thundero 48 which measures around 49mm at the knobs.
And as you can see on the image…the gap between the FD wheeltop and the tire is roughly 4.5 to 5mm.
So you might be able to run a 50mm tire but I guess you would have to cut away at least parts of the mudguard to fit that on top of the tire.
Not sure though.
Besides that…I am loving it…already set it up with a rear rack…so no annoying need for a humongous saddlebag for bikepacking…
also run it with 35mm Pirelli slicks….fun that was…
Just the storage „bento-boxes“ are not the top of engineering. I mean, everything works fine and all, but you really have to be cautious what you put in there, because the cut out is very narrow. So you might end up with a Tetris game that fit INTO it but you are troubled to get it out again….which sucks.
And as you can see on the image…the gap between the FD wheeltop and the tire is roughly 4.5 to 5mm.
So you might be able to run a 50mm tire but I guess you would have to cut away at least parts of the mudguard to fit that on top of the tire.
Not sure though.
Besides that…I am loving it…already set it up with a rear rack…so no annoying need for a humongous saddlebag for bikepacking…
also run it with 35mm Pirelli slicks….fun that was…
Just the storage „bento-boxes“ are not the top of engineering. I mean, everything works fine and all, but you really have to be cautious what you put in there, because the cut out is very narrow. So you might end up with a Tetris game that fit INTO it but you are troubled to get it out again….which sucks.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« on: September 17, 2025, 11:41:22 AM »Hi all,
I just got my Wheeltop EDS TX and I have to ask: Is the mounting screw of the rear derailleur really that squeaky? Like nails to a chalkboard when tightening the screw to the mech hanger? Anyone else?
YES!
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« on: September 17, 2025, 11:33:19 AM »Hi,
has anyone ordered the Wheeltop's own OSPW for the EDS TX?
I ordered mine (a bit over 2 months ago) - got the EDS TX already, but still waiting for the OSPW, and don't really want to cut my chain to length until I get the OSPW (I assume I need 1-2 links extra)
so... if someone had ordered their OSPW - has anyone received it / how long did it take to get it?
I did … but via Aliexpress for around 90$…
But actually…I cannot recommend it.
The large lower pulley bearing is not very well sealed. Now you may say…it’s ceramic anyways…but this did not
prevent it to completely lock up! Because of debris entering.
So it’s a bit of a service intensive item. Maybe using it for my gravel setup is not the intended user case, but well.
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Quick Pro GR:One - First one in the wild? build suggestions / hack to 2x
« on: August 28, 2025, 05:47:36 AM »
Hmm…can’t imagine a GRX crank would fit either by the looks of it…which should.
And from what I read, the Quick GR is designed to fit max 700x45c tires.
As said on page nr.1 I am running a dura ace 48/33 on the Yoeleo which fits up to 53mm tires, t47 86,5mm BB(probably not with a FD) and I only needed just a tiny spacer to fit it….still the safety pin on NDS could engage.
And from what I read, the Quick GR is designed to fit max 700x45c tires.
As said on page nr.1 I am running a dura ace 48/33 on the Yoeleo which fits up to 53mm tires, t47 86,5mm BB(probably not with a FD) and I only needed just a tiny spacer to fit it….still the safety pin on NDS could engage.
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« on: August 13, 2025, 11:06:32 AM »
Just another probably “nice2know” item concerning rear derailleur GeX or Eds TX
A possible route cause for ghost shifting:
The linkage system at the joints of the derailleurs are screwed together by 2 opposite screws. I think it’s a 3 or 2 Allen key.
Now with my EdsTX one of those screws came loose allowing the lower body to move around along the axis of the joint.
Causing some ghost shifts…
So….check the joints frequently…(also applies to front der.)
A possible route cause for ghost shifting:
The linkage system at the joints of the derailleurs are screwed together by 2 opposite screws. I think it’s a 3 or 2 Allen key.
Now with my EdsTX one of those screws came loose allowing the lower body to move around along the axis of the joint.
Causing some ghost shifts…
So….check the joints frequently…(also applies to front der.)
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Quick Pro GR:One - First one in the wild? build suggestions / hack to 2x
« on: July 01, 2025, 06:54:45 AM »
Maybe chainring clearance could be an issue….depends on what cranks/rings you are planning to install.
e.g. I am on a Dura Ace 9200 crank with 48/33 rings on my new Yoeleo Altera…needed some tiny spacers to clear the chainstay…but still was able to engage the safety pin on non drive side…
e.g. I am on a Dura Ace 9200 crank with 48/33 rings on my new Yoeleo Altera…needed some tiny spacers to clear the chainstay…but still was able to engage the safety pin on non drive side…
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild AERO GRAV Frame
« on: June 12, 2025, 08:49:03 AM »
Hi,
from what I understand…and cycling industry loves to just throw in new standards…
T47 inboard measures 86,5…now, surprise, if you ever had to install a t47 86,5…you might have scratched either your
head or your frame, because the flange where you engage your tool is very thin.
So…they came up with a bb-shell width of 85,5mm…so a dedicated bottom bracket t47 85,5 has a wider flange for tool engagement!
That means you end up finally at the same total width.
Now…of course you can thread in a 85,5mm bb into your 86,5mm frame….but…you will end up 1mm wider!
So…whatever crank you are going to install….it could work…but you should consider it.
I hope I am right and it makes sense…
from what I understand…and cycling industry loves to just throw in new standards…
T47 inboard measures 86,5…now, surprise, if you ever had to install a t47 86,5…you might have scratched either your
head or your frame, because the flange where you engage your tool is very thin.
So…they came up with a bb-shell width of 85,5mm…so a dedicated bottom bracket t47 85,5 has a wider flange for tool engagement!
That means you end up finally at the same total width.
Now…of course you can thread in a 85,5mm bb into your 86,5mm frame….but…you will end up 1mm wider!
So…whatever crank you are going to install….it could work…but you should consider it.
I hope I am right and it makes sense…
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Yoeleo Altera G21
« on: June 09, 2025, 03:39:32 AM »
Some thoughts on building it up:
As said, packaging is top, kind of new standard!
Extra box with items, screws, spacers…etc
Installation guide in “real” English, very detailed!
Frame/ painting top….t47 interface v.well faced.
Flat top mounts…could have been slightly better…rear without adapter should be fine, with it a bit of sanding. Front ditto.
Boxes on top- and downtube look like being cut out afterwards with “template”. Not sure tough just guessing, but seems reinforced…quite simple open/close mech.
As it’s not a fully compartment option you have to use the bags which sit under and are screwed to the cover.
I find them a bit small…but have no comparison.
I did change the steerer bearings with a stainless steel option, size is 52x40 45/45 … one 7mm, other 8mm
Installation wants you to put 8mm at bottom, but I reversed it, as I found the gap more pleasant the other way round.
And they still use this steerer tube metal spacer where the bottom bearing sits at the fork .
Elsewhere no issues with building it up with my wheeltop EDS TX 2x group.
And I opted for the road bar/stem combo in 400/110.
Cheers…
As said, packaging is top, kind of new standard!
Extra box with items, screws, spacers…etc
Installation guide in “real” English, very detailed!
Frame/ painting top….t47 interface v.well faced.
Flat top mounts…could have been slightly better…rear without adapter should be fine, with it a bit of sanding. Front ditto.
Boxes on top- and downtube look like being cut out afterwards with “template”. Not sure tough just guessing, but seems reinforced…quite simple open/close mech.
As it’s not a fully compartment option you have to use the bags which sit under and are screwed to the cover.
I find them a bit small…but have no comparison.
I did change the steerer bearings with a stainless steel option, size is 52x40 45/45 … one 7mm, other 8mm
Installation wants you to put 8mm at bottom, but I reversed it, as I found the gap more pleasant the other way round.
And they still use this steerer tube metal spacer where the bottom bearing sits at the fork .
Elsewhere no issues with building it up with my wheeltop EDS TX 2x group.
And I opted for the road bar/stem combo in 400/110.
Cheers…
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Road Groupset x Gravel Bike - Share Your Experience
« on: June 02, 2025, 01:03:23 PM »
Ya….same here: Altera G21 with 2x wheeltop….11-34 11spd, 48/33 stone chainrings on dura ace crank.
Maybe later upgrade 12sp 11-36…that’s what I like with wheeltop….besides it serves me well, only complaint here are the
kind of old school tiny STI levers.
Cassette is edco/recon steel….
Tire clearance with front der. I have to check…now on 40mm challenge, maybe next try: Schwalbe 45, or 50?
Maybe later upgrade 12sp 11-36…that’s what I like with wheeltop….besides it serves me well, only complaint here are the
kind of old school tiny STI levers.
Cassette is edco/recon steel….
Tire clearance with front der. I have to check…now on 40mm challenge, maybe next try: Schwalbe 45, or 50?
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Yoeleo Altera G21
« on: June 02, 2025, 12:42:55 PM »
That’s it what makes me tired of all those un(social) media discussion sites.
Someone starts a thread on topic X….soon after “evangelics of common sense” chime in and
play the same old song again and again…
It’s all ok, velobuild, Tantan or whatsoever…but that was not the question here.
I did also have a look at all those other brands, but I did not find what fit me…design, geometry, gimmicks…etc
And yes, I find it really helpful to scroll through these YT influ. reviews….why not! Cheers Patty!
Someone starts a thread on topic X….soon after “evangelics of common sense” chime in and
play the same old song again and again…
It’s all ok, velobuild, Tantan or whatsoever…but that was not the question here.
I did also have a look at all those other brands, but I did not find what fit me…design, geometry, gimmicks…etc
And yes, I find it really helpful to scroll through these YT influ. reviews….why not! Cheers Patty!
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Yoeleo Altera G21
« on: June 02, 2025, 05:28:51 AM »
A lot educated guesses around I won’t comment.
It’s becoming a bit dogmatic kind of forum where some define what is value and what not…
So back to topic
I got the Altera frameset here with seatpost/handlebar for around 1400,-
Packaging is v.good…quite the new standard.
Instructions are really thorough and useful, never saw kind of such details with western brands…no chinglish!
So is the box with all these small parts.
T47 interface is faced and no paint overlap
Painting is amazing…
So far so good…
Size 58 with internal boxes and rear axle and all those screws around 1350g
Communication with Yoeleo was Fast and responsive.
Looking forward to buil it up
Cheers
It’s becoming a bit dogmatic kind of forum where some define what is value and what not…
So back to topic
I got the Altera frameset here with seatpost/handlebar for around 1400,-
Packaging is v.good…quite the new standard.
Instructions are really thorough and useful, never saw kind of such details with western brands…no chinglish!
So is the box with all these small parts.
T47 interface is faced and no paint overlap
Painting is amazing…
So far so good…
Size 58 with internal boxes and rear axle and all those screws around 1350g
Communication with Yoeleo was Fast and responsive.
Looking forward to buil it up
Cheers
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« on: April 26, 2025, 03:22:38 AM »Have you read somewhere or confirmed with them that it's indeed an intended feature
Good point….i just sent them a question…
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Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Wheeltop EDS GeX
« on: April 25, 2025, 02:33:05 AM »
Lately I managed to empty the rear derailleur to 0% on my Gex ….
And they seem to have implemented a quite decent feature.
Rolling out for kind of 2h ride, I did notice that not each shift got through to the rear.
First thoughts were…empty STi batt., broken shifter buttons, maybe bad connection or failing rear der.
And it was a bit weird as i was able to shift once every 20sec or so…
Mid ride at coffee stop I did check via the App and rear der. was at 0%.
But no problem, I was able to ride back 1h still in this battery safer mode…shifting now and then.
Now that I did connect the derailleur to my head unit, I will get any low power alert though.
But I find that quite amazing…
And they seem to have implemented a quite decent feature.
Rolling out for kind of 2h ride, I did notice that not each shift got through to the rear.
First thoughts were…empty STi batt., broken shifter buttons, maybe bad connection or failing rear der.
And it was a bit weird as i was able to shift once every 20sec or so…
Mid ride at coffee stop I did check via the App and rear der. was at 0%.
But no problem, I was able to ride back 1h still in this battery safer mode…shifting now and then.
Now that I did connect the derailleur to my head unit, I will get any low power alert though.
But I find that quite amazing…
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« on: December 13, 2024, 02:55:20 AM »I m using magura post mount calipers with magura hose, on lever side i will use wheeltop olive but not sure about pin, should i use wheeltop one/ that should be inbetween sizes of bh59 and bh90? Or should i go with bh59 despite being slightly thicker.
I have read that magura pin is too ong for shimano levers and damage can happen, can it fit wheeltop levers properly?
From what I see I would not recommend using magura pin on wheeltop levers…as it’s designed around bh59/90 shimano standard … I’d rather use wheeltop insert/pin on the lever side…