It's the same frame. Carbonda resells the Flybike stuff.

I understand that, but isnt it weird then, that the headtube measurements (HS) are off by up to 4 mm?

I am interested in this frame, but have sent two inquiries through the website and gotten zero replies. What is the best way to get a price quote on one of these frames?

Never use the contact form of the website. I tried that with different manufacturers and it never worked, even if the website would say "message sent" or something most have mail adresses or QQ or Skype contacts somewhere on their website.

They dont offer size 47 de to lack of demand  very sad.

It looks rather narrow, thats true. Only time will tell, I guess.

I am more concerned about the longevity of the closing machanism of the downtube latch. It has to hold the momentum of a waterbottle. Any opinions on that, anyone?

All done! ready to ship out.

This is all very exciting! From this picture it seems like, there arent screws on the top tube? Do you know anything about that? And does anyone know
how the compartment on the down tube closes? is there a mount for a bottlecage on the latch itself?

I might build a first time Chinese bike with this frame for my bff, she is 167 cm tall, so I might go with the size 470, I think. Any opinions on that? I took here existing road bike as a template and talked with her what she likes/dislikes about it.

best wishes and thanks a lot to everyone on this thread and this forum. absolutly love it!

Wow, majort thanks for sharing the build and the comprehensive report.

I recently completed a new build based on the VeloBuild VB-R-066 2023 Disc endurance(ish) road bike frame and the L-TWOO eR9 electronic groupset.

Why do you call the frame endurance(ish)? Is it going towards a "climbing" bike? The geometry seems rather endurance to me, but I dont have a lot experience.

Thanks again!