Quote from: pylepilot on December 12, 2025, 10:04:55 PM
Request the handlebars have some extra long reach so I can rest my forearms on the tops (with my hands on the hoods) in an aero 90 degree elbow position, and stay there for hours. Do this to the maximum extent while staying within the UCI rules.  Or provide two options, one within the UCI rules and then one that does not comply with the UCI rules that allows extra long reach.  Thanks.

Fuck UCI we want aero and comfort all the way

Quote from: kubackje on December 13, 2025, 05:46:35 PM
Fuck UCI we want aero and comfort all the way

It'd make it awful to to steer but I can see the aero advantage in a bike built around a short top tube, short stem and long reach narrow bars.

Quote from: toxin on December 05, 2025, 09:47:35 AM
If weight on the hands is a problem for someone, they shouldn't be looking at race oriented bikes in the first place and buy an endurance bike.

My hand numbness subsided when I went with a 40mm longer stem and shifted my saddle forward

I don't think people need to be super fit for a high and long position.

Quote from: patliean1 on December 03, 2025, 07:19:50 PM
Wouldn't the overall effective top tube length (figure O) shorten with a steeper seat tube angle?

For a size Large, the top tube length (figure O) is the same on both the old and newly updated geometry chart 564mm

Hope that you review both of these Pat. US needs a new value frame now that other brands have gone mainstream and more expensive. Geo charts looks good to me

Quote from: gribs on December 13, 2025, 07:41:15 PM
It'd make it awful to to steer but I can see the aero advantage in a bike built around a short top tube, short stem and long reach narrow bars.

I dont think so. Having a 140 mm stem and 80 mm handlebar reach which isnt strange nowadays is the same for handling as 120 reach bars and 100 stem

Quote from: PeterXu on December 01, 2025, 11:12:02 PM
So, we are making two new framesets for 2026, haven't named them yet.

it would be great to have the non aero frame just with a more aero and thin seat post... and not a more round one