Quote from: AngryBear on April 29, 2026, 10:05:34 AM
I'm getting the sense that some people may be overemphasizing the BB drop. It does matter, but it's only one piece of the overall geometry, and it's how all the elements work together that really determines how a bike rides. As has been mentioned several times, this is essentially the same geometry as the Cannondale SuperX, which has received excellent reviews. The main difference here is that this frame allows for up to 57mm tires, adding a lot of versatility. I've actually ordered one myself and am really excited to build it up. Jack also shared some images and the geo chart, and it looks awesome. PS Jack also mentioned that this has a chainstay protector and downtube protector.

I agree with you. I really like the geometry. It's aggressive and nearly identical to my Cannondale supersix evo CX, which I have raced on everything from single track to champagne gravel. Didn't have any issues. I went with the FM296 which is supposed to arrive tomorrow. If I don't love it, this will be my choice.

Anyone knows max tire width with 2x drive train?

Quote from: Zrader on April 29, 2026, 06:30:35 PM
I agree with you. I really like the geometry. It's aggressive and nearly identical to my Cannondale supersix evo CX, which I have raced on everything from single track to champagne gravel. Didn't have any issues. I went with the FM296 which is supposed to arrive tomorrow. If I don't love it, this will be my choice.

How can you call the reach and stack in any way aggressive? It's like a Dutch bike.

Quote from: wintermute on April 30, 2026, 10:42:42 AM
How can you call the reach and stack in any way aggressive? It's like a Dutch bike.

I don't know much about geometry specific to be honest. I've have a Cannondale SSE CX and have ridden the SuperX and they definitely feel like aggressive race bikes.

Are comparing the SuperX to a Dutch bike? The SuperX is a fantastic gravel race bike. The BB drop wasn't very forward thinking from Cannondale. Neither was the tire clearance, but this frame solves the more important issue with adding the ability to clear 2.2 MTB tires.

Does anyone know if they'll do top tube mounts? The renderings don't have them.

Does anybody know if Mondince had made this frameset already?

I'll ask about both of these things and let you know what he says.

Jack just sent me the 3d model. It looks really nice!

Quote from: AngryBear on May 19, 2026, 08:57:21 AM
Jack just sent me the 3d model. It looks really nice!

Thank you!

Tantan just announced they are also releasing this frame.

Quote from: Ultramic on May 21, 2026, 02:16:24 AM
Tantan just announced they are also releasing this frame.

Could you give a link to this announcement plz?

I just got pricing. Frame, fork, headseat, seat tube, storage bag, and axles are $580. Shipping to the US is $180, including tariffs. Custom paint is $80.

Quote from: ains on May 21, 2026, 08:44:13 AM
Could you give a link to this announcement plz?

Someone has just started a new thread on this:

https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,7298.0.html

Quote from: FlorianS on May 07, 2026, 05:15:26 PM
Does anyone know if they'll do top tube mounts? The renderings don't have them.

It will have top tube mounts

Quote from: Zrader on April 29, 2026, 06:30:35 PM
I agree with you. I really like the geometry. It's aggressive and nearly identical to my Cannondale supersix evo CX, which I have raced on everything from single track to champagne gravel. Didn't have any issues. I went with the FM296 which is supposed to arrive tomorrow. If I don't love it, this will be my choice.

BB drop matters A LOT when it comes to stability at high speed and how easy it is to achieve this high speed. CX bikes have high BB to make it easier to jump over obstacles at low speeds with 33 mm tire, but this is a disadvantage for high speed cornering on gravel. The way bike corners with high and low BB is very different, and big tires will only exacerbates this difference.