Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

Started by patliean1, October 23, 2024, 08:29:27 AM

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taurusstier

Vivian replied: Of course, that's not covered under warranty, since I would have damaged the threads... The fork threads don't look very good anymore either. I always tightened the axles by hand and then with a torque wrench. It's simply cheap material quality. That's definitely it for me, and I can only warn everyone against buying from them. Regarding the scratched top tube, she already said I was just unlucky, even though it was clearly a defect in the top cap.

momento

Quote from: Bugo on July 02, 2026, 02:01:26 AM
Sorry, but I also need to comment this post...
We will all NEVER know what exact performance you can get out of SL8 and X68. It can simply be due to personal oppinion / feeling (which is not relevant) OR because we do not know X68 numbers OR we are simply shit riders that can't even use full potential of bikes.

I would also like to hear your arguments comparing X68 to SL8 as day and night. In what ? how do you back this comparisson up with some non-personal facts?
If we blindfold you, and put you on X68 with S-works stickers...are you sure you would reckognize which bike is it? =)

So, there are many of us that can absolutelly agree that X68 frame (700 USD) and SL8 (4-5K€) is more than comparable with ride feel.

I've used the original SL6, SL7, and SL8 for 5 years, and since November I've been riding the X68 on the road, but mainly on rollers.
The difference is night and day.
Even just hitting the two frames with a coin.

You'll notice it on the road at the first bump.

On high-speed descents.

If you try to brake the front wheel from a standstill and push back and forth, you'll see a pronounced flex in the X68.

On rollers, if you sprint, you'll see a pronounced flex in the bottom bracket area.

So the frame LOOKS LIKE a TARMAC SL8... it's not.

Some people say: my friend races with it and it goes fast... OK, I believe it, with a Tarmac it would go even better.

dovh

So I finally received the replacement frame. For context, a couple of pages back I posted about an issue where my bottom bracket thread became loose, and I was offered a replacement frame if I paid for paint and shipping.

The frame looks to be ok. I think they cheaped out on the paint job, and it is honestly quite shitty compared to the original frame I had, but it's close enough, I guess. It seems that at least they faced the brake mounts and BB. I put the bike together and rode 100km on it today already.

It felt maybe a bit stiffer than my previous frame, so they might have made some modifications since I got mine (February 2025).

Nonetheless, I will not be buying anything else from Tantan. Even though I had quite good customer support and they were always helpful with everything, I just had too many problems with it. The frame itself is really a great ride for the money — it feels good to ride, it's comfy and really fast for my recreational riding.
Wish all the rest of you guys more luck with yours down the line! :)

fhill

Quote from: Sander2177 on June 25, 2026, 05:00:02 PM
Yes had to sand it down. Trap some sand paper between frame and underside of spacers and turn bars left and right!

Have tried that, was a bit too much to sand it down, so decided to go with another c-ring from AliX, works without rubbing now, slightly different design on the angle and therefore more room between top cap and frame

rosteven

Quote from: crazyravr on June 10, 2026, 07:44:03 AM
Yes and so was I. Please do update like I did. Also, dont be surprised when you stop getting emails from and replies to your emails from them, but that I did expect and its a norm with all these manufacturers.
As promised Update Time:
- I ordered my complete TT-X68 from Seraph/Rose on the 15th of May and was quoted approx. 4 weeks to paint/build the bike 
- Notification that the bike was ready was received on the 21st of June
- Emails reconfirming my telephone number between 22/23 June (wrong telephone Country Code on invoice caused issues)
- The completed bike was shipped on the 25th of June in two boxes (frame in one/wheels in the other)
- 4 July the shipment arrived in Europe and is in the Customs Clearence process

BTW - Rose@Seraph went above and beyond to help me with my order; first I her asked to change the frame color after having already placed the order, her response a day later was "No problem, done".  A couple of days later I asked to have the crankarms changed to 165mm, Rose's response was the same. Finally, a week later I asked to have the seat post length changed to a 380mm one, again "No problem".  I'm not sure who you had helping you, but my Sales Rep. was Great !!!

Tpower59

Quote from: crazyravr on June 24, 2026, 08:51:42 AM
Nahhhhhhhhhh you wont ;) You put them there for a reason.

Full OVERSLOW conversion is done my dear 
I told you  :-*
Now everyone is staring at this mysterious *FAST* bike 🤣

crazyravr

Looked better with the stickers lol :)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Good job. Now get proper gumwall tires from Pirelli. Those actually stay that colour.

Tpower59

Quote from: crazyravr on July 07, 2026, 08:54:51 AM
Looked better with the stickers lol :)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Good job. Now get proper gumwall tires from Pirelli. Those actually stay that colour.
I know this theory.
That's the same as those who think that putting on 3 condoms at the same time is the best solution so that the one in the middle always stay clean  ???

EricL

Does anyone try the SL8/X68 with the Tavelo Rise bar ?

rosteven

Quote from: Tpower59 on July 07, 2026, 07:59:24 AM
Full OVERSLOW conversion is done my dear 
I told you  :-*
Now everyone is staring at this mysterious *FAST* bike 🤣
I'm not too keen on the blocky "OVERSLOW" font, but the bike looks 100 percent better with those flashy wheel decals removed.  Stealth all the way !!!

7hecouchpotato

Quote from: Sander2177 on September 03, 2025, 06:07:23 AM
I have a 380x110cmbar from Tan Tan Available as I have swapped to Darimo style 380x120cm.  I'm surprised they will not sell you one its Tan Tan.  She give you a reason?

Hey Sander. Would you be able to link a similar "Darimo style" bar from Ali? I searched for the 2 sellers you mentioned from a past post to no avail...



BeR

Quote from: 7hecouchpotato on July 11, 2026, 05:39:39 PM
Thanks but it's a 1 pc integrated bar

...found the post on pg 101

The sellers (RK, Polar and First class) who sell this handlebar are not in the game anymore for now.

Jettin

Anyone looking at 0 offset seatposts for SL8, I can confirm that the one I bought from AE fits X68, slightly looser than the seraph post but torqued up and it does not slip. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010144462211.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.29.73631802VYJCfD&tblci=GiCC4m7NjPqiKcqZte9zc6nQwymmLm1_jCpQPCF6yretFSCnqXUogey87_rbk6idATC062M