Plasti Dip

Started by MTB2223, July 06, 2014, 03:06:51 PM

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MTB2223

Does someone has experience with plasti dip on his/her frame? And especially on a matte frame.

I want to put a design on my UD matte frame when it arrives. And Plasti Dip looks very nice.

Carbon_Dude

I haven't put it on my frame but I have a couple of friends who have put it on their cars.  What are your questions?
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Aoiree

I've used it for costumes before. Have a can or two lying around somewhere here...

Agreed. Whatcha wanna know?

MTB2223

I want to know how it holds (on UD matte) and if it's easy to remove. I know it will on a glossy frame, but I think on a UD matte frame it will be a little different?

Carbon_Dude

#4
I am just guessing but my expectation would be that Plasti-dip would adhere to a matte finish frame just fine.  I've seen people apply it to automotive alloy wheels then track the car, even under high temperatures it does not come off.

Removal is as easy as peeling it off by hand.

It really is amazing stuff.  They even make a clear top coat you apply over the base coat for increased gloss and durability.
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2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
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MTB2223

Quote from: Carbon_Dude on July 07, 2014, 06:51:35 AM
I am just guessing but my expectation would be that Plasti-dip would adhere to a matte finish frame just fine.  I've seen people apply it to automotive alloy wheels then track the care, even under high temperatures it does not come off.

Removal is as easy as peeling it off by hand.

It really is amazing stuff.  They even make a clear top coat you apply over the base coat for increased gloss and durability.
That's what I thought also. But in the color I want to use, matte red, there's a higher concentration of Tolueen (diluent) in it, than in other colors. Is this maybe a problem ?

I will apply a matte top coat. Don't want any glossy parts.

I think I'll do a little test on the bottom bracket cover :)

Carbon_Dude

#6
I've seen it applied to Corvette (Composite) body panels without issues but there was an automotive clear coat on top of the composite material.  However, I've not seen it applied to any carbon fiber.  I would hope the clear topcoat on the carbon would protect from most solvents, Tolueen is a very strong solvent, hopefully it will not cause any problems.
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2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
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Aoiree

I can't seem to find anything about interactions with toulene and carbon fiber from google searches that seems to mean much for this.

I'd agree... test it out on something that's not imporant first.

MTB2223

I did a little Plasti Dip on a carbon part of the frame.
When my XT group arrives, I will start building up my bike and look how the carbon holds underneath the Plasti Dip.


Carbon_Dude

The more I think about it, Plasti-Dip seems like it should be very benign.  Anything you can just peel off later, can't be too bad for most any surface.

Looking forward to seeing the final result.
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2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
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MTB2223

Quote from: Carbon_Dude on July 13, 2014, 03:54:03 PM
The more I think about it, Plasti-Dip seems like it should be very benign.  Anything you can just peel off later, can't be too bad for most any surface.
I agree. But here in the Netherlands, there is a webshop selling Plasti Dip. But they only sell red matte Plasti Dip to business consumers, not you and me. This is because there's a higher concentration of Tolueen. And red matte is just the one I want :)
So, I was wondering what would be the impact on the carbon for this 'high concentrated Tolueen' color. I think it's not a problem.
And I'm not in a hurry to build my bike (still waiting for some parts), so, I've some time to test :)

Oolak

Very interested in seeing how this turns out.

You painting all one solid color or some type of design?

MTB2223

Quote from: Oolak on July 14, 2014, 06:29:43 PM
You painting all one solid color or some type of design?
I'm going for a design. And under the down tube maybe an area to protect the frame.

cmh

Any updates on this?  Photos of how the Plasti-Dip came out?

MTB2223

I tried to make a nice design, but it's a hell of a job. There're eight layers of plastidip needed to cover up the frame nicely. After every two layers, I've to remove the design tape, let it dry, put tape on again, spray two layers, remove tape, dry, tape on again, etc. It's a very secure job.

Made a mistake, didn't remove the tape after two layers, the plastidip sticks on the tape and I damaged the design when removing the tape. So, I could start over again.

So, it's on hold for the moment ...