Velo Build R-099 Build

Started by Snacks, December 29, 2020, 04:37:06 PM

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OlieSimpson

Quote from: rank1 on December 29, 2021, 12:11:32 AM
Just confirming that this is the FSA ACR Headset you are referring to https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/headsets/road-mtb/no-55r-1-5-acr  ?

Also, do you happen to know the torque value in the attached image? I have sent an email to Velobuild and have yet to receive a response....

As far as I know Value A is 5-6nm and Value B is only 1-2nm. This is from memory so would be great if another user (or VeloBuild themselves) could confirm.

I'm yet to build my 168 and would love to have all of the torque specs detailed if possible i.e. the seat post wedge, steerer tube plug, shifter handlebar clamps, front/rear brake callipers etc.

hazzer19

Quote from: rank1 on December 29, 2021, 12:11:32 AM
Just confirming that this is the FSA ACR Headset you are referring to https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/headsets/road-mtb/no-55r-1-5-acr  ?

Also, do you happen to know the torque value in the attached image? I have sent an email to Velobuild and have yet to receive a response....

Per VeloBuild these should be adjusted to 5.5Nm

rank1

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Quote from: hazzer19 on December 29, 2021, 02:55:11 PM
Per VeloBuild these should be adjusted to 5.5Nm

Thanks Hazzer19, just confirming that both values A and values B has a torque recommendation of 5.5NM? I'm just double checking just in case there is a misunderstanding and is this documented somewhere or was that communicated directly to you by Velobuild?

Also, is the seat post wedge really 12NM for the VB099? Only concern is over tightening it.. :)

I have yet to get a response from them and it's been over 4 days now..

FHS

Quote from: rank1 on December 29, 2021, 12:11:32 AM
Just confirming that this is the FSA ACR Headset you are referring to https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/headsets/road-mtb/no-55r-1-5-acr  ?

Also, do you happen to know the torque value in the attached image? I have sent an email to Velobuild and have yet to receive a response....

Yeah, that's the headset I use. Iirc, I torque mine to around 4 or 5nm. I beleive 6 is the max.

hazzer19

Quote from: rank1 on December 29, 2021, 07:43:32 PM
Thanks Hazzer19, just confirming that both values A and values B has a torque recommendation of 5.5NM? I'm just double checking just in case there is a misunderstanding and is this documented somewhere or was that communicated directly to you by Velobuild?

Also, is the seat post wedge really 12NM for the VB099? Only concern is over tightening it.. :)

I have yet to get a response from them and it's been over 4 days now..

Yes I asked Velobuild directly and they said 5.5 Nm for the side bolts which are in A in your diagram and then said 6 Nm for the "top cap lock head sets". I'm not sure if this refers to only the top cap or the internal plug as well

rank1

Quote from: FHS on December 30, 2021, 01:15:07 PM
Yeah, that's the headset I use. Iirc, I torque mine to around 4 or 5nm. I beleive 6 is the max.

Thanks for that FHS!

rank1

Quote from: hazzer19 on December 30, 2021, 02:06:35 PM
Yes I asked Velobuild directly and they said 5.5 Nm for the side bolts which are in A in your diagram and then said 6 Nm for the "top cap lock head sets". I'm not sure if this refers to only the top cap or the internal plug as well


Thanks for the confirmation Hazzer19.
I'm guessing the 6Nm they meant for the "top cap lock head sets" is pretty much the headset plug as the top cap headset drives the plugs. I'll stick to that and hope for the best..  ;D

In regards to your seat post wedge, assuming with carbon paste, what torque value did you use on yours? 

Snacks

with some carbon paste , i torqued it to 6nm and its held up with no issues for about 3k miles now

rank1

Quote from: Snacks on December 30, 2021, 07:03:49 PM
with some carbon paste , i torqued it to 6nm and its held up with no issues for about 3k miles now


Thanks Snacks! Any reasons why you didn't go close to the 12Nm as outlined on the wedge clamp?

Snacks

12 seemed a bit high when comparing to my other bikes. So I just tightened enough to stop it from moving

Ogi22

That is my new fake S-works   :D

First problems:
1. The seat dries automatically...
2. The handlebars are too soft for my 95kg... a lot of movement when I drive uphill
3. When I breaking only on front break I see that front forks bends back... idk maybe it is normal for carbon frame?

https://ibb.co/vvpwDhS

https://ibb.co/xYZGstq





RDY

Quote from: Ogi22 on February 01, 2022, 02:05:51 PM
That is my new fake S-works   :D

First problems:
1. The seat dries automatically...
2. The handlebars are too soft for my 95kg... a lot of movement when I drive uphill
3. When I breaking only on front break I see that front forks bends back... idk maybe it is normal for carbon frame?

https://ibb.co/vvpwDhS

https://ibb.co/xYZGstq

3) if flex is visible something is seriously wrong.  Either your headset is loose or the fork is about to fail catastrophically, or both.  Please get it looked at by a good mechanic.

Velovelo

Quote from: Ogi22 on February 01, 2022, 02:05:51 PM
That is my new fake S-works   :D

First problems:
1. The seat dries automatically...
2. The handlebars are too soft for my 95kg... a lot of movement when I drive uphill
3. When I breaking only on front break I see that front forks bends back... idk maybe it is normal for carbon frame?

https://ibb.co/vvpwDhS

https://ibb.co/xYZGstq

If your handlebar is the Velobuild HB011 then yes it flexes a lot! Especially on both drops. I have similar experience. Velobuild agree to a change of handlebar but I have to pay for shipping both ways. I haven't gotten the time to send it back. I may just order the new separate stem and handlebar option from them and hope they can offer some kind of discount.

hazzer19

Quote from: Velovelo on February 02, 2022, 01:13:28 AM
If your handlebar is the Velobuild HB011 then yes it flexes a lot! Especially on both drops. I have similar experience. Velobuild agree to a change of handlebar but I have to pay for shipping both ways. I haven't gotten the time to send it back. I may just order the new separate stem and handlebar option from them and hope they can offer some kind of discount.

Has anyone used both the HB010 and HB011 and can comment on stiffness between the two?

Ogi22

Mine is Velobuild HB010 and it flexes a lot! I will check with some climbs and i hope i survive  :)