Because everyone wants to look like they belong to INEOS Grenadiers...

Quote from: RDY on April 18, 2022, 05:45:31 PM
I see people asking for BB386 and T47 ... but BSA-68 on a carbon road frame? Wat.

If it makes a difference, the F12 has an Italian BB, which is just BSA with the bad habit of loosening itself over time

HAHA
as my insta says, my height is 99% of my personality, and the other 50 is my stupidity @1sigma

Quote from: 1Sigma on April 18, 2022, 07:56:06 PM
Because everyone wants to look like they belong to INEOS Grenadiers...

If it makes a difference, the F12 has an Italian BB, which is just BSA with the bad habit of loosening itself over time

I'm shocked.  The F too still has ITA .... that's absolutely ridiculous.  No wonder it can only fit a 28mm tire max, despite less than massive faring of the seatube over the rear tire. 

VB are claiming 32mm.  If true then the BB area and chainstays must differ significantly from the original. 

SKY / INEOS going after all the marginal gains and then not insisting on an update to a modern BB standard after all these years.    That's pretty funny. 

I take back what I said then.  In this context BSA makes some sense.  But imagine if it had been BB386 instead ...

whats wrong with bb386?

Nothing. Of the ones available it's the most ideal assuming it's well toleranced.

Quote from: RDY on April 18, 2022, 09:18:50 PM
I'm shocked.  The F too still has ITA .... that's absolutely ridiculous. 

I can only assume it is some weird Italian tradition thing. 

Quote from: RDY on April 18, 2022, 09:18:50 PM
SKY / INEOS going after all the marginal gains and then not insisting on an update to a modern BB standard after all these years.    That's pretty funny. 

I guess, to some degree, teams do not choose their kit.
And besides the BB the F12 is a great bike.  In terms of racing, and having a team of mechanics and all that, I don't imagine the BB procession would be an issue.

I'm sure Pinarello has some marginal gain rationale for doing it, although it could very well be a support-local-industry situation

Quote from: patliean1 on April 17, 2022, 06:59:23 PM
Apparently this frame wasn't intended for average-sized Americans LoL

Biggest size is about equivalent to a 58cm Trek. Average US male height corresponds to a 56cm Trek according to Trek.

As always, your sizing mileage may vary depending on your specific measurements. Trek suggest a 54cm for me but I'd take a 50cm or 47cm.

Quote from: St0mpB0x on April 21, 2022, 03:32:31 AM
Biggest size is about equivalent to a 58cm Trek. Average US male height corresponds to a 56cm Trek according to Trek.

As always, your sizing mileage may vary depending on your specific measurements. Trek suggest a 54cm for me but I'd take a 50cm or 47cm.

I was being a bit facetious. I'm 6 feet tall myself, and typically take a 54 or 56 depending on the reach.

Velobuild has direct mount rim brake model option now.

Quote from: cramy on April 17, 2022, 06:25:17 AM
hope the seatpost is better than the 168, many people complaining it is sliding dow.

mine is sliding as well

Quote from: GilardiRT on May 07, 2022, 02:04:28 AM
mine is sliding as well

What is the specs of the 168 seatpost clamp hex socket cap bolt?
My 177 had slipping seatpost issues and I think it is solved now.
My VB177 seatpost clamp came with a M6/35mm hex socket cap bolt.
I swapped it with the M6/30mm hex socket cap bolt from my 099 seatpost clamp and my seatpost slipping issues seam to have disappeared after over 100km of testing.
I'm not sure if the seat clamps would be similar but maybe you can try this option.

Quote from: Velovelo on May 07, 2022, 02:51:06 AM
What is the specs of the seatpost clamp hex socket cap bolt?
My 177 had slipping seatpost issues and I think it is solved now.
My VB177 seatpost clamp came with a M6/35mm hex socket cap bolt.
I swapped it with the M6/30mm hex socket cap bolt from my 099 seatpost clamp and my seatpost slipping issues seam to have disappeared after over 100km of testing.
I'm not sure if the seat clamps would be similar but maybe you can try this option.

I'm gonna check it, thank you very much

Has someone bought this frame? I wanna give it a try

Think you'll need to wait a month or two for many reports.

Quote from: RDY on May 08, 2022, 07:12:54 AM
Think you'll need to wait a month or two for many reports.

You're maybe right

I will order the frame this week. But I don't know which size. I'm 173cm and 80 inseam. What size do you suggest? (515 or 530)