FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame

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casual_build

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Quote from: Badaboom on October 13, 2022, 01:06:30 PM
I don't intend to do that. I just won't buy paint from them on future builds. The build price on this bike was... hefty. Getting $50 for a paint job that, while chippy, still looks pretty good isn't something I want to bother with.

That's fair. I did get 40$ back on my paint. I don't care about the money. I just think Carbonda has at least one bad painter and asking for a paint refund is a good way to get that message across.

That way, the paint is better in the future.

Draz

Quote from: Badaboom on October 13, 2022, 01:06:30 PM
I don't intend to do that. I just won't buy paint from them on future builds. The build price on this bike was... hefty. Getting $50 for a paint job that, while chippy, still looks pretty good isn't something I want to bother with.

I don't recommend DIY painting. Especially if you don't own equipment or place to do. Covering every hole is time consuming unless you have a machine for cutting sticker then you can simply measure, print and cover it up. It requires patience, planning and little bit of experience or moderate amount of youtube videos.

Also if you crash and cause chipped/scratched paint, you will understand the real pain. ;D

Swolie74

Quote from: Draz on October 13, 2022, 01:23:04 PM
I don't recommend DIY painting. Especially if you don't own equipment or place to do.

Also if you crash and cause chipped/scratched paint, you will understand the real pain. ;D

soooo you're telling me I have an excuse to buy more tools?!?! Sign me up!!!

Jotegr

Quote from: Draz on October 13, 2022, 01:23:04 PM
I don't recommend DIY painting. Especially if you don't own equipment or place to do. Covering every hole is time consuming unless you have a machine for cutting sticker then you can simply measure, print and cover it up. It requires patience, planning and little bit of experience or moderate amount of youtube videos.

Also if you crash and cause chipped/scratched paint, you will understand the real pain. ;D

Yeah, but you can get some pretty cool results from learning to paint DIY

Edit: Jesus sorry it's so huge.

carbonazza

Quote from: Swolie74 on October 13, 2022, 03:12:53 PM
soooo you're telling me I have an excuse to buy more tools?!?! Sign me up!!!

No need of special tools, just a good friend is enough

casual_build

What do you guys think the best shock tune is for this bike?

My shocks was a Specialized Enduro takeoff. With the following tune:
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2021, FLOAT DPX2, P-S, A, 3pos, Trunnion, Evol LV, Specialized, Enduro SAV, 205, 60, 0.4 Spacer, CL0001, RLA018, Rezi M2 L+ M+, Standard Logo, N/M

I didn't think too much about the tune when I bought it. I threw in a 0.8 spacer to attempt make it more progressive at the end. Am I doing this right?

Here is the leverage ratio from the insanityofgravity blog post:

FullCarbonAlchemist

Personally I've been really happy with a stock tuned DVO Topaz but am thinking about having the damping slightly tweaked to be plusher when I send it to DVO over the winter for a damper service (don't trust local shops with DVO suspension, had too many f-ups in the past).

My experience has been that with air shocks, you can almost pretend the regressive dip at the bottom of the travel isn't there. It's not as big of a deal as it looks in that graph. I've never come anywhere near bottoming out; I weigh ~200lbs without gear and go fairly big on jumps.

I started out with three positive volume spacers, reduced it to one, and am thinking about removing that too. Odds are you'll be drastically under utilizing travel with a 0.8 spacer in a Fox shock. No spacers or a 0.2 might be a problem for heavy, extremely aggressive riders but my guess is that a 0.4 or 0.6 would be fine. Be willing to experiment; in my experience bottom outs aren't really an issue with the FM1002.

casual_build

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Surprisingly, I bottom out fairly often. Most of the time without noticing and only on unruly trails. I always reset the rubber ring on the stroke before descending. Sometimes after a big drop its all the way to the eyelet.

At 77kg with 165 PSI, I've got 27% sag. For big and medium drops my DPX2 feels super supportive. For small chatter it's fairly stiff, not supple. Which I don't mind in the rear.

I'll try adding more air but I am curious as to what tune goes well with this slightly progressive horst-link suspension.

Badaboom

This is my first full suspension, so I got my hands on a shockwiz. I'm able to get everything on the DPX2 nailed, but the HSC is always pegged at "make softer". The tune I have on my rear shock probably needs to be factory adjusted, because I can't do anything with it.  I assume that's the same small chatter you're talking about, and it's my only (minor) gripe.

I couldn't be happier with the Lyrik fork though.

My riding so far is just trail riding, so this bike is complete overkill. However, it handles and is so much more capable than my previous hardtail.

casual_build

Quote from: Badaboom on October 21, 2022, 09:23:07 AM
This is my first full suspension, so I got my hands on a shockwiz. I'm able to get everything on the DPX2 nailed, but the HSC is always pegged at "make softer". The tune I have on my rear shock probably needs to be factory adjusted, because I can't do anything with it.  I assume that's the same small chatter you're talking about, and it's my only (minor) gripe.

On my Lyrik I keep HSC/LSC all the way open. If my DPX2 had those adjustments, I'd probably do the same.

Yeah, the DPX2 isn't very supple, but its very supportive and handles big hits surprising well. My only comparison is my DPS on my FM936 and its got a progressive tune with a 0.8 spacer. It doesn't feel nearly as confidence inspiring on jumps or unruly trails.

rcasper96

What size would you recommend for someone who is 5'9 looking to get a fm1002?

endo.alley


FullCarbonAlchemist

Yeah, probably an M. 1002 sizing is pretty middle of the road.

casual_build

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Quote from: rcasper96 on November 10, 2022, 02:44:53 AM
What size would you recommend for someone who is 5'9 looking to get a fm1002?

I am 177cm, (5'9+) and I went with a large. I think the medium would be okay with a longer stem, but I definitely like the large.

Coming from a medium FM936 and I wanted more bike.

In truth, bike sizing is not about height as much as riding style. A large will be more stable, smoother on tech and faster on the straights, but harder to bail in a crash and won't handle tight corners as well.

Personally, with a static chain stay length  (440) on all sizes, I think large is a great size. I'm overforking by 10mm and that makes the reach a tiny bit smaller. For me, the bike doesn't feel big.

BrokenTibia

I am using headset from Carbonda. question to those using same headset. do you have also such big gap between upper/lower headset and head tube?