FM1001 / FM1156 - 135mm frame

Started by Bajker, January 03, 2021, 02:36:26 PM

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Neb

I recently installed a Megneg onto my Rockshox Deluxe, at the same time I increase the shock stroke from 50mm to 55mm, so effectively increased the rear suspension to 135mm. The Megneg seems to have helped keep the suspension progressive, I previously used all of the volume tokens to make the shock ramp up, the megneg gives better sensitivity at the start of the stroke and also increases the ramp up at the end. So a win win.

bossman302

Quote from: Neb on December 15, 2022, 03:08:26 PM
I recently installed a Megneg onto my Rockshox Deluxe, at the same time I increase the shock stroke from 50mm to 55mm, so effectively increased the rear suspension to 135mm. The Megneg seems to have helped keep the suspension progressive, I previously used all of the volume tokens to make the shock ramp up, the megneg gives better sensitivity at the start of the stroke and also increases the ramp up at the end. So a win win.

Funny you bring this up. I've been thinking about doing the MegNeg to my Super Deluxe Ultimate. Good to hear you are liking it. Hope to find it on sale.

helmat

I already have the Megneg Parts at home for my upcoming build, will install it with on a Deluxe Ultimate. Made the payment for my frames last week and should receive pictures of my painted frames in the coming days.
Currently I'm very busy at work, but come January I should have time to start rebuilding my fork and remove parts from my current bike.

Glen_one_n

Good Morning - long time lurker with his frame shipping today!!  Thanks ADAM!

Question - what lengths of bolts are needed to successfully mount calipers for 180F/180R?  Using Shimano SLX Four Piston M-7120 and RochShox Pike fork.

Thanks in advance for all of the tips and advice contained herein.

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ZhaoL

Hello all, I'm very interested in this frame, but not sure what size would fit(M or L). I'm 175cm(5'9'') and have 82cm inseam. I find the STA of this frame is quite steep. That causes a relatively short top tube. I wonder if a medium will feel cramped or uncomfortable during some long and flat pedalling. But a large seems to be very long (it has 472mm reach and a 440mm seat tube length). My Current bike is a Giant Trance 2017 size M which has a 435mm reach, 73.5 degree of STA and 610mm top tube length. Should I go for a large? Or a medium of FM1002?

bossman302

Quote from: ZhaoL on January 01, 2023, 10:02:32 PM
Hello all, I'm very interested in this frame, but not sure what size would fit(M or L). I'm 175cm(5'9'') and have 82cm inseam. I find the STA of this frame is quite steep. That causes a relatively short top tube. I wonder if a medium will feel cramped or uncomfortable during some long and flat pedalling. But a large seems to be very long (it has 472mm reach and a 440mm seat tube length). My Current bike is a Giant Trance 2017 size M which has a 435mm reach, 73.5 degree of STA and 610mm top tube length. Should I go for a large? Or a medium of FM1002?

This question gets asked a lot about this frame and pretty much every one says this frame runs on the smaller side. Well... I seem to be the exception. I'm 5'11" and went with the M frame. I find it fits me perfectly. I've never felt "cramped" when in the saddle for long climbs. This is with a 40mm stem, 35mm rise bars. At 5'9" I would say you are a medium. Others will probably tell you to get a large. Again, for me I would buy the FM1001/FM1002/FM1003 in a medium

ZhaoL

Quote from: bossman302 on January 02, 2023, 02:13:34 AM
This question gets asked a lot about this frame and pretty much every one says this frame runs on the smaller side. Well... I seem to be the exception. I'm 5'11" and went with the M frame. I find it fits me perfectly. I've never felt "cramped" when in the saddle for long climbs. This is with a 40mm stem, 35mm rise bars. At 5'9" I would say you are a medium. Others will probably tell you to get a large. Again, for me I would buy the FM1001/FM1002/FM1003 in a medium
Thanks a lot! That's very helpful.

carbonazza

The saddle cuts your height in two.
Your torso and arm length define more the size of the frame you need.
Your inseam will only make the vertical drop between the saddle and the bar.
So for the same height, shorter legs may need a L.
While longer legs will need a M.

Jotegr

That's the normal experience on the super modern fit, a kind of small effective top tube in the seated position. You get the full reach/length/wheelbase when you stand up. You can go a size up, but personally I'd rather deal with a tigher seated position.

filipes

Quote from: ZhaoL on January 01, 2023, 10:02:32 PM
Hello all, I'm very interested in this frame, but not sure what size would fit(M or L). I'm 175cm(5'9'') and have 82cm inseam. I find the STA of this frame is quite steep. That causes a relatively short top tube. I wonder if a medium will feel cramped or uncomfortable during some long and flat pedalling. But a large seems to be very long (it has 472mm reach and a 440mm seat tube length). My Current bike is a Giant Trance 2017 size M which has a 435mm reach, 73.5 degree of STA and 610mm top tube length. Should I go for a large? Or a medium of FM1002?

I have 178cm and L feels nice to little short despite 55mm stem and 10mm offset seat post.  With 44mm offset fork and 150mm travel the bike is surprisingly agile anywhere except uphill switchbacks. I don't dare longer stem in order not to cripple handling, which is very nice. I was and still tempted to try XL with short stem... But I cannot imagine myself on M. FM1001 has somewhat aggressive geo & long wheelbase even compared to contemporary trail bikes - if you are in, take L and short stem, if not, look elsewhere. Short offset fork probably helps agility and I don't feel any lack of stability at speed.

filipes

Can be FM1001 fitted with some angled head set? I am tempted to try -1 degree, specifically 64,5 HA with 140mm fork travel, 44mm offset. Did anybody tried?

helmat

I have received pictures of my frame, FM1001 XL in Slate Grey RAL 7015
Cannot wait to start building it up.

FullCarbonAlchemist

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Quote from: filipes on January 03, 2023, 06:59:56 AM
Can be FM1001 fitted with some angled head set? I am tempted to try -1 degree, specifically 64,5 HA with 140mm fork travel, 44mm offset. Did anybody tried?

Seems like a simpler way to achieve that would be to go with a 150 fork.

I'm sure angle sets exist in 1.5"-1.5" but I've never seen one and would assume they'd put extra stress on the integrated bearing cups that would probably result in creaking, from my experience with a 1002.

(I had fairly bad creaking with the OEM headset after a short time — only resolved when I installed an FSA no.55R that has a more solid upper bearing reducer cone. It was partly due to the OEM headset letting water in and corroding easily but any extra stress/play in the upper bearing will probably have the same result eventually.)

helmat

What's the correct damper hardware size for the 1001? I found 30x8 is that correct?

bossman302

Quote from: helmat on January 04, 2023, 03:10:15 PM
What's the correct damper hardware size for the 1001? I found 30x8 is that correct?

That is correct