Time to Build Another One - IP-036 (completed on page 2)

Started by turboenterprise, November 29, 2014, 02:53:44 PM

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turboenterprise

So the itch to have a full suspension and a back up bike for race season is getting me. I am in the initial stages to see how much this will $$ the wallet will take a hit.

Trying to figure out what I missed. 

  • Do I need bushings for the pivot joints?
  • I think I am going 120mm this time to prevent pedal strikes and a little extra room
  • Anybody familiar with the Xloc Full Sprint system? Locks out both front and rear at the sametime
  • Can't decide if the DTSwiss hubs are worth the extra money.  The Novatecs I have now are working just fine


Carbon_Dude

Pivots come with the frame but you most likely will need the shock mounting bushings that are the correct size for the frame.  RWB has needle bearings you could also choose but are much more expensive.

Nothing wrong with going up to 120mm travel front fork, specs say the rear travel is 110mm.

Don't have XLoc but I do recommend getting remote lockouts on the suspension, my Fox fork & shock both have three positions (CTD) and the Scott dual lock lever I installed works really well,

DT Swiss makes nice hubs, 350's are a better value than the 240's but if you want the best it always costs more.  Bitex 401 hubs are also a good choice that I went with on my carbon wheels, but if I had it to do again I'd go with DT Swiss.

I think my XX1 build was right around $3400 so it looks like you are on the right track.
2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

turboenterprise

#2
These RWC shock needle bearings sound interesting. I'll have to do some research to see which one is needed as they have only factory bikes listed.  Did you need a tool to install the bearings? Stock or these RWC?

JohnnyNT

+1 on DT350, if XMI offers them they are best bung for the buck.

Vipassana

A friend and lurker on here that I ride with just finished his IP-036 and we ride together for the first time this past week.  It turned out really nicely.  I'm impressed with the frame for sure. I'm really thinking of building one next year as well.  I was following him for a bit and was reminded just how nice a FS bike is at holding the trail.  His rear tire maintained contact over bumps much more than my hardtail seems to.  I didn't notice very much pedal bob on his bike either.

turboenterprise

#5
V-that is what is making me want to get one as well.  Some of the guys I race with ride FS and I try to keep up and I just watch the back tire carve through the trails. Catching up on a downhill, forget about it. 

My build is looking like its going to be around 4k if I do it the way I want.  I need to figure out how to get this paint scheme on a FS.  Anyone have ideas on how to get this detail on the FS so Peter can get it painted.  Photoshop?

Lastly, I am reading more about rear shock being medium tune or high tune. The monarch xx might is medium tune?  Not sure what to think about that. More research needed.   





turboenterprise

For those comparing Frame Sizes - I ride a 15.5 in the IP057 and trying to figure out if the same size will work in a FS.  Looks like 25cm difference in Top tube length in the same size. 


Carbon_Dude

Regardless of the difference in top tube length, I'd say go with a similar sized IP-036 as you did with the IP-057, worked fine for me.
2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA


Carbon_Dude

Quote from: turboenterprise on December 31, 2014, 07:22:16 PM
Build list is finished.  Parts are ordered...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LtaRNX6TL8IwC5bzp5FkyeG18YKNnZK5j40yWfohxPw/pubhtml

Looks good.  I like your component choices, I almost went with the WTB Laser saddle but ended up with a Sette Italia as it was a closeout deal on eBay.  Although the WTB is probably a better saddle for what I like.
2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

turboenterprise

I just got my Ip036 today and it looks good but I noticed something and I was wondering if everyon else had these two notches on both sides of the back (arms). Not sure what they are called. 


Carbon_Dude

2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

turboenterprise

Quote from: Carbon_Dude on January 10, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
Nope, not on mine.

Here is the other side.  I asked Peter what he thinks, I am not too concerned about it but would like to know if it is intentional or a defect in the mold. 


MTB2223


turboenterprise

#14
That would make sense.. I need to get a flashlight and look at them closer.  EDIT: looked at them closer, they are on the top back bars and on the side not bottom.  They aren't through the carbon all the way and aren't perfectly circle.  Its just strange they are exactly same spot on both sides.