So it seems that the frame have the same clearance as the OG foil - 30c

Shame with the tire clearance, but thanks for posting pics and whatnot. Excited to see the build!

Quote from: abdbeg on June 27, 2023, 08:30:00 AM
So it seems that the frame have the same clearance as the OG foil - 30c

Real one will fit a 32-34 (depending on rim / tire combo) in sizes 56 or above ..

Very careless power sander with low grit use on that frame.

This identical frame is being sold under the Ceccotti label on Aliexpress. There the seller states a maximum tire clearance of 28mm.

Quote from: Sebastian on June 27, 2023, 11:06:08 AM
This identical frame is being sold under the Ceccotti label on Aliexpress. There the seller states a maximum tire clearance of 28mm.

Yes, but when I asked seller directly, he claimed that 32c tyre will fit to this frame

Quick dry run photo before I start painting and building this week. With both my saddle height and handlebar drop setup, I'd say it looks pretty aerooooo.

I'm also testing those new Magene EXAR DB508 Ultra wheels. 58mm rear 50mm front, carbon spokes, 36t DT-Swiss style hub. Weight came in at 1366g. 30mm external, 23mm internal.

Quote from: patliean1 on June 27, 2023, 02:16:43 PM
Quick dry run photo before I start painting and building this week. With both my saddle height and handlebar drop setup, I'd say it looks pretty aerooooo.

I'm also testing those new Magene EXAR DB508 Ultra wheels. 58mm rear 50mm front, carbon spokes, 36t DT-Swiss style hub. Weight came in at 1366g. 30mm external, 23mm internal.

K, I take it back, frame looks better in that angle. Maybe the seraph pic was a smaller size and non drive side doesn't help

Quote from: patliean1 on June 27, 2023, 02:16:43 PM
Quick dry run photo before I start painting and building this week. With both my saddle height and handlebar drop setup, I'd say it looks pretty aerooooo.

I'm also testing those new Magene EXAR DB508 Ultra wheels. 58mm rear 50mm front, carbon spokes, 36t DT-Swiss style hub. Weight came in at 1366g. 30mm external, 23mm internal.

Lookin good!
Too bad about the tyre clearance not being enough for 32 as stated.

Hey patliean1

I was thinking about tire clearance, i noticed that you are using wheel with 23mm inner width, could it be that it smaller inner width will fit with 32c? Like standard 21mm

Quote from: abdbeg on June 30, 2023, 12:14:26 AM
Hey patliean1

I was thinking about tire clearance, i noticed that you are using wheel with 23mm inner width, could it be that it smaller inner width will fit with 32c? Like standard 21mm

The wheels I tested where from my Rinasclta all-road bike which have a 20mm internal and 28mm outer. Coincidentally also from Magene.

Also...my SRAM/DUB T47 bottom bracket arrived last night. Happy to report both BB cups threaded into the frame with no issues at all. I should have the bike built by early next week. 

Quick Update

The bike build is on hold for a few weeks 

-Turns out T47 requires it's own BB Tool different from other 16-notch BB tools. 52mm versus 50, 48, and 44. So I had to order one.

-I ordered the wrong "T47 for DUB" bottom bracket. Apparently there are two version of this standard: Inboard and Outboard. I ordered outboard. Inboard means the bearings sit inside the frame/cup, while outboard means they sit...outside of the frame. Outboard is (I think) is for MTB/Gravel frames because the road Sram DUB spindle I have did not clear the frame. The outboard T47 I have is too wide for the crankset so I have order the inboard version.

-I leave on holiday for two weeks so the project will have to wait till I return. Shame because the bottom bracket and crankset are the final things left to finish the build. My 2K clearcoat also arrived super late so I attempted to build the bike with plans of spray protecting it later. Do not do this.

-Speaking of the build there were a couple of quirks. The caliper mounting bolt holes on the fork (the bottom of the two) are not as deep to accommodate a standard length caliper bolt. So you will either need a shorter M6 bolt from the local hardware store or include about 1mm worth of washers in order properly tighten the caliper. This is a frame design flaw.

-In my experience, SRAM rotors are far more prone to arrive out of true than Shimano rotors. Rarely are they ever perfectly straight/aligned/true. So when you pair that to not "perfectly" faced caliper mounts..expect to troubleshoot disc rub. Thankfully the issue is mostly the on rotors not the frame.

I do have high hopes for this frame in terms of stiffness. It will probably ride more like early 90's project tuner car than a modern day sports car.

Photo #1 - Outboard T47 bottom bracket. This why the inboard version is needed. The crank spindle doesn't clear the frame. Also shown is the proper bottom bracket tool from Park Tool

Photo #2 - Showing the bolt washers required to properly tighten the caliper.

Photo #3 - Here is a fork comparison from a different frame (Dengfu R12). As you can see, the caliper mounts protrude further out than on the TanTan x38 in order to accommodate a standard size front caliper bolt. This is why extra washers or shorter bolt is needed.

Photo #4 - Bike is almost finished. Looks pretty legit, I reckon the final weight without pedals/power meter/computer will be somewhere around 7.4kg.

This frame has been growing on me. First I was considering getting Elves Eglath, but now, not so sure (2022 Falath Pro is another option). Problem is, I want bit more stack height than my current set up (530mm stack frame + 45mm spacers (I bought the bike as is, so I wasn't the one who came up with this)). Would 30mm spacers look utterly ridiculous on aero frame?

I don't think I've ever had a frame where the stock caliper bolts were a perfect fit. I've always had to source slightly longer/shorter bolts elsewhere or use washers for perfect fitment. I thought this was norm and not the exception.

Quote from: BalticSea on July 03, 2023, 02:23:18 PM
Would 30mm spacers look utterly ridiculous on aero frame?

Ride what makes YOU happy.