If the Yoeleo Pro 50 with 20mm internal width is like riding on clouds, what's the point of more comfort from the 23mm internal width?

Just assuming that riding on clouds is a pretty high level of comfort...

It's sad, they updated the price of R086D and R1088D and increased it by $100. I remember last 2 months I asked it was just $629 and $649 respectively.

Regardless, I am still going to buy either of frame,

Also, I asked Lightcarbon if they are still one with Yishun. Here's the response from Gavin;

"We had some more cooperation with Yishun in the past, but now we have become completely independent companies

Yishun sells those products that showed on yishun website, and LightCarbon sells the products that showed on lightcarbon website. "

Quote from: Dark17 on September 06, 2023, 01:20:24 AM
It's sad, they updated the price of R086D and R1088D and increased it by $100. I remember last 2 months I asked it was just $629 and $649 respectively.

Regardless, I am still going to buy either of frame,

Also, I asked Lightcarbon if they are still one with Yishun. Here's the response from Gavin;

"We had some more cooperation with Yishun in the past, but now we have become completely independent companies

Yishun sells those products that showed on yishun website, and LightCarbon sells the products that showed on lightcarbon website. "

dayum they some low frames man. my long legs/short torso can't handle that geo

My 206DB-RBD50C wheels arrived today. Took 5 calendar days from Xiamen to Chicago via FedEx. First ride with them will be this evening using the same tires and TPU tubes for comparison.

Weight without tubeless rim tape: 1471g

Because the wheels were provided at a discount for the sake of a video review (my idea not theirs) the wheels neither came with tubeless rim tape installed, nor was rim tape or spare spokes provided. Also keep in mind these are $500 not $1000 wheels, but I'll still ask Yishun about this. Thankfully I had spare rim tape and it literally only takes 5 minute.

Considering Yoeleo, Magene, and Elite are offering similarly spec'd wheels for $100 to $400 more, I can live without the included rim tape and spokes.

didn't think people still ordered holes in their rimbed in 2023

Quote from: Dark17 on September 06, 2023, 01:20:24 AM
It's sad, they updated the price of R086D and R1088D and increased it by $100. I remember last 2 months I asked it was just $629 and $649 respectively.

Regardless, I am still going to buy either of frame,

Also, I asked Lightcarbon if they are still one with Yishun. Here's the response from Gavin;

"We had some more cooperation with Yishun in the past, but now we have become completely independent companies

Yishun sells those products that showed on yishun website, and LightCarbon sells the products that showed on lightcarbon website. "

I guess inflation finally hit them as well. I hope they did not increase the price for the R068

hey Pat, have you tried this frame on a climb? how was it? I am really close on buying this frame (maybe tomorrow I place an order and finally decide)

Quote from: Dark17 on September 07, 2023, 10:17:10 AM
hey Pat, have you tried this frame on a climb? how was it? I am really close on buying this frame (maybe tomorrow I place an order and finally decide)

There are no actual climbs in Chicago. Only a few punchy rolling hills. I would argue that if you're looking for a climbing-focused frame, an aero frame probably isn't the best choice. The frame is plenty stiff however, which is important when climbing.

Quote from: patliean1 on September 07, 2023, 11:20:23 AM
There are no actual climbs in Chicago. Only a few punchy rolling hills. I would argue that if you're looking for a climbing-focused frame, an aero frame probably isn't the best choice. The frame is plenty stiff however, which is important when climbing.

Thanks and I really appreciate the response! I would use the frame for road racing, mainly for criterium but some hill climbing would do. I asked because it's really hilly on our area. a regular 40km 2 hour ride would have 1000 meter elevation gain on my usual practice route and some places have 12% - 22% grade climbs which is my also route.

Some additional pics of what appears to be the R086-D frame.

https://www.facebook.com/profile/100057480218997/search/?q=tifosi

Finally got a response back from Yishun:

Hi Friend,
700C disc brake R086 road frame available with size 52cm.
HB088-42x120 remain the final one.
It is USD913 per set.
Including with frame/fork/seat post/HB088 integrated handlebar/headset/2 spacers/front & rear thru axle skewers/computer mount.
Also add with UPS delivery cost, and paypal payment fee.
Frameset with UD matte finish without decals.
Order now, you can receive the frameset after 7-9 days.

Does indeed look like the price for the frame has increased, but based on Patrick's feedback I'm ready to make a purchase. Just wish I could get it painted for a reasonable cost.

Quote from: 89quattro on September 08, 2023, 08:04:15 AM
Finally got a response back from Yishun:

Hi Friend,
700C disc brake R086 road frame available with size 52cm.
HB088-42x120 remain the final one.
It is USD913 per set.
Including with frame/fork/seat post/HB088 integrated handlebar/headset/2 spacers/front & rear thru axle skewers/computer mount.
Also add with UPS delivery cost, and paypal payment fee.
Frameset with UD matte finish without decals.
Order now, you can receive the frameset after 7-9 days.

Does indeed look like the price for the frame has increased, but based on Patrick's feedback I'm ready to make a purchase. Just wish I could get it painted for a reasonable cost.

Yishun will paint it I believe. It's pretty good. I got my forks done in gloss black and it was surprisingly cheap.

Pulled the trigger and went to buy this frame. Wish me luck that I can still climb the hills like with my current bike which is an aluminum merida scultura rim brake.

Planning to have LTwoo ER9 as the drivetrain and brakeset, my trusted Shimano 105 as cranks and an 11-32 cogs. I am also planning to buy some 50mm deep ProX wheelset.

Why not going for 11-34 for climbs? XD For the wheels, you could go for the undulating 5045 with carbon spokes xD.

@Dark17, let us know how it goes especially the wheels, been eyeing them for about a year (ProX Super Light Carbon Spoke Wheels C67DB) may nake it a self Christmas gift. Want too know how it rides on rough roads