Does any supplier have these frames yet? Flirting with the idea of a big 29er.

Haven't seen any Chendors with a 29+ frame.  Just 26, 27.5, 29, and Fatbike in the offroad choices.

That's what I thought. Maybe one day.

Quote from: d34n on June 01, 2015, 02:23:00 PM
Does any supplier have these frames yet? Flirting with the idea of a big 29er.

Few options:
1. Hardtail fat bike frame. But different rear hub size and BB. And probably other caveats.
2. Get any carbon frame and modify it yourself. AFAK nobody has done it so far.
3. Convince someone at China side to make something that people want. Only very minor modifications to molds are required.

Options #4. DIY. The whole bike. There's a guy on youtube who made a CF TT bike bike for $160 ...and >100 hours. For a FS mtb bike I think it will be 3x more time.
youtube.com/watch?v=hDnH9_Q4ijE

Wait, what? People are actually making their own CF frames DIY style? That's pretty cool. Not sure I'd do it myself but still interesting. Had no clue.

I saw the vid and you really need some serious number of hours if you are doing a DIY frame shocking part for me was it was made in 2009.

I think after this year the plus size frames will take off after which we might see chiner plus frames.

So, 29+ is a 29er with 50mm width rims and 3 inch tires, correct?

How much heavier are the wheels compared to an average 29er wheel? How much lighter compared to average fat bike wheels?

Vee Rubber makes a 3.0 29er tire. How would such a large tire ride? Its gotta be slow. I rode a Foes Mutz for a day...and while the big tire fun factor (great on really rough descents!) was high...its still a slow accelerating and not so nimble bike. A 650+ tire is about the same size as a 29x2.3. My buddy rode his Trek Farley on our hard pack trails was struggling on the climbs. 

What about a standard 29er frame and running 27.5+ wheels?

Quote from: Izzy on June 02, 2015, 06:38:32 PM
So, 29+ is a 29er with 50mm width rims and 3 inch tires, correct?

How much heavier are the wheels compared to an average 29er wheel? How much lighter compared to average fat bike wheels?

My previous Stan's Flow Ex 29er wheelset weighs 2100grams. Hope Evo 2 Pro hubs. 25.5mm internal width.

My current carbon wheelset 50mm outer/45mm inner width, Novatec D881/882 hubs, Pillar 1420 spokes weigh 1800 grams. So 300 grams lighter!
There are two versions of 50mm rims, one is ~50g lighter and they say its 120kg max rider weight, I went for stronger and heavier version, 200kg max rider weight.
Bought the whole wheelset in Q2Cycling. Highly recommend them.
http://www.shop-q2cycling.com/FAT-RIM/pro-p8518.html

I'm 110kg geared up, I like uphills more then downhills, sometimes manage to take 2nd or 3rd place in local races (>30 riders in my group and I'm the oldest). For me these wheels are faster overal. Exactly the same time on my benchmark climbing route and much faster down.

My bike is Giant Trance X 29er 2013. Maxxis Chronicle front, Maxxis Ardent 2.4 rear. So its like 75% of a proper 29+ bike.
I went further then just 'flirting' but so far have no proper frame.

Quote from: RS VR6 on June 02, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
Vee Rubber makes a 3.0 29er tire. How would such a large tire ride? Its gotta be slow. I rode a Foes Mutz for a day...and while the big tire fun factor (great on really rough descents!) was high...its still a slow accelerating and not so nimble bike. A 650+ tire is about the same size as a 29x2.3. My buddy rode his Trek Farley on our hard pack trails was struggling on the climbs.

The bike you rode is just a fat bike. Not 29+ bike. It is different. People usually assume that 3.0 inch tires equals a fat bike tires but it is not. I haven't ride a fat bike so far but for me 3.0 tires are as fast as 2.4 tires.

The main disadvantage of 29+ over 'normal' tires is that is not that nimble in a twisty singletrack. But overal in my conditions I'm faster then I used to be and faster or equal to my ride buddies on pure trail bikes w/ 2.4 tires.

Love the look of your trance 29er. Looks great.

Quote from: ya29er on June 03, 2015, 12:26:10 PM

Quote from: RS VR6 on June 02, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
Vee Rubber makes a 3.0 29er tire. How would such a large tire ride? Its gotta be slow. I rode a Foes Mutz for a day...and while the big tire fun factor (great on really rough descents!) was high...its still a slow accelerating and not so nimble bike. A 650+ tire is about the same size as a 29x2.3. My buddy rode his Trek Farley on our hard pack trails was struggling on the climbs.

The bike you rode is just a fat bike. Not 29+ bike. It is different. People usually assume that 3.0 inch tires equals a fat bike tires but it is not. I haven't ride a fat bike so far but for me 3.0 tires are as fast as 2.4 tires.

The main disadvantage of 29+ over 'normal' tires is that is not that nimble in a twisty singletrack. But overal in my conditions I'm faster then I used to be and faster or equal to my ride buddies on pure trail bikes w/ 2.4 tires.

Thanks for the reply.

When I see anything "+", I automatically think Fatbike. The fatbike is extremely fun to ride though. The giant tires let you roll over everything. It gave me the illusion that I was going faster than I actually was. Since I was braking and steering less. I was smashing over everything I had to steer around in my Pivot. I thought I PR'd a couple sections of my local trail compared to my Mach 5...but after uploading my data...I actually found that I was slower.

I see one so far the Workswell WCB-M-078 27.5+/ 29 /29+ MTB Frame http://www.workswellbikes.com/web/view/161.html. Looks like they may have borrowed the chainstay idea from the Trek Stache 

Quote from: d34n on June 01, 2015, 02:23:00 PM
Does any supplier have these frames yet? Flirting with the idea of a big 29er.