Quote from: Takiyaki on December 24, 2024, 07:34:54 AM
There are a decent number of road-ish gravel frames available with ~42c tire clearance, and a few full on road frames with ~35c tire clearance. Beyond that you'd be splitting hairs.

It's the "few full on road frames with ~35c tire clearance" that I can't seem to find

Quote from: PeterXu on December 23, 2024, 11:34:47 PM
Is there any current existing design for reference? I would be interested to make a new frameset.

From what most of us read we look for:

Short reach (ex: canyon endurace, pinarello X)
Higher stack (ex: canyon endurace, pinarello X, etc)
27.2 seat tube
Light weight (ex: large and xl sizes with paint around 1000g mark)
Good look (aeroish). Like the speeder cycling r55/tavelo arrow
T47 bottom bracket
35mm tire
Price tag not higher than others
No copycat


I'd suggest as well have a preset of colour paintscheme. And as I mentioned in another post thst you could ship in the box groupset even if you don't provide warranty because it allows for reduction in overall shipping prices.


My last build was a velobuild r066 precisely because it ticks almost all these part. Didn't go for your grevil mostly due to pricing and because it was heavier

I honestly wish we could have a aero looking bike with endurance geometry, endurance bikes should still look good (Pinarello X is the best example, the BMC Road machine is a second one).

Quote from: rasch on December 24, 2024, 11:32:43 AM

My last build was a velobuild r066 precisely because it ticks almost all these part. Didn't go for your grevil mostly due to pricing and because it was heavier

If that clone was made for road tires I would have one now. For real the weight won't hold many back. Have a gel instead of a sammich as a snack while on a ride would be close to the same weight.

Quote from: Daviddavieboy on December 24, 2024, 02:16:49 PM
If that clone was made for road tires I would have one now. For real the weight won't hold many back. Have a gel instead of a sammich as a snack while on a ride would be close to the same weight.

I think lots of people wouldn't buy a carbon frame with 1.3kg or more IMHO. An easy solution for that it to have two versions like LC and Carbonda have. The Super light and the normal.

Vb066 is pretty nice for its cost. It's basically a canyon endurace. But I think largest size can only go up to 1.90m or so. it's very confortable though.

Quote from: rasch on December 24, 2024, 04:32:08 PM
I think lots of people wouldn't buy a carbon frame with 1.3kg or more IMHO. An easy solution for that it to have two versions like LC and Carbonda have. The Super light and the normal.

For sure lots of people wouldn't but it's only for bragging rights, 300g is nothing

Quote from: rasch on December 24, 2024, 04:32:08 PMVb066 is pretty nice for its cost. It's basically a canyon endurace. But I think largest size can only go up to 1.90m or so. it's very confortable though.

The Geo is nice but the frame specs are outdated.

Quote from: PeterXu on December 23, 2024, 11:34:47 PM
Is there any current existing design for reference? I would be interested to make a new frameset.

Peter, totally different topic but would you consider an "homage" to the pinarello dogma XC but maybe a tad less aggressive?

I forgot to mention Yishun R068:

https://www.yishunbike.com/product/r068-dperformance-road/
https://geometrygeeks.bike/bike/yishun-r068-daero-road-2022/

I use it as my home trainer bike, really good geometry

Quote from: Ludo on December 24, 2024, 10:55:59 PM
Peter, totally different topic but would you consider an "homage" to the pinarello dogma XC but maybe a tad less aggressive?

We are considering this as well.

What do you think about this 56cm size design? T47 85.5mm bottom bracket, max tire size 700*32C, UDH

I would like this geometry

And I have size 54cm designed, but I don't want to upload all of them for now. Anyone wants to see 54cm geometry, PM me. 2D drawing should be available before Chinese Lunar calendar new year.

Quote from: PeterXu on December 26, 2024, 05:09:09 AM
700*32C

Any plans going bigger?

Quote from: rasch on December 24, 2024, 11:32:43 AM
My last build was a velobuild r066 precisely because it ticks almost all these part. Didn't go for your grevil mostly due to pricing and because it was heavier

I'm interested in that frame as well, what's the actual tire clearance? I read mixed information on that

Quote from: PeterXu on December 26, 2024, 05:09:09 AM
max tire size 700*32C, UDH

Quote from: Chamomile on December 26, 2024, 06:18:11 AM
Any plans going bigger?

You had me up until the tire size. Personally I would like a min of 35. TBH if the GR01 had 35) road bike tire clearance it would be right up my ally.

Carbon weave instead of UD would be nice as well for the outermost layer.