TanTan/Seraph TT-X69 - The Real SuperSix EVO Clone? Alternative to LC017-D?

Started by patliean1, December 05, 2024, 09:35:39 AM

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neobiker

Quote from: ancientone on December 17, 2024, 02:20:25 AM
Isn't TanTan = TT-X68 ? Do I have to specifically mention the weight or is it assumed ?

The frame we are speaking of is the TT-X69.

ancientone

Quote from: neobiker on December 18, 2024, 05:52:41 AM
The frame we are speaking of is the TT-X69.

OK, Thanks. I thought I read TT-X69 was 840gm, guess I was mistaken.

fenomeno



fhill

Quote from: fenomeno on December 28, 2024, 12:27:16 PM
Hi
How can I get a quotation from TanTan Sports?

https://taiwaneisen.cc/product/cannondale-supersix-lab71-2/
This website sells the same Frameset?

Regards.

Taiwaneisen has NOTHING to do with TanTan.

For Tantan, either go to Seraph or mail TanTan

RDY

Quote from: fhill on December 28, 2024, 01:18:48 PM
Taiwaneisen has NOTHING to do with TanTan.

For Tantan, either go to Seraph or mail TanTan

I think the chance that they're both doing the same steerer as the original product, including the kevlar braid, but from two different factories, is close to zero.

They're almost certainly using the same factory for the fork at the very least.  Frame may indeed be different factories. I think this is the same 'Taiwanese' (probably nothing to do with Taiwan at this point) clone seller with loads of shopfronts on AliExpress. The quality of their frames is usually significantly higher than TanTan.

patliean1

Quote from: RDY on December 28, 2024, 01:39:06 PM
The quality of their frames is usually significantly higher than TanTan.

Interesting. Good to know yo...

fenomeno

Quote from: RDY on December 28, 2024, 01:39:06 PM

They're almost certainly using the same factory for the fork at the very least.  Frame may indeed be different factories. I think this is the same 'Taiwanese' (probably nothing to do with Taiwan at this point) clone seller with loads of shopfronts on AliExpress. The quality of their frames is usually significantly higher than TanTan.

Thanks...
Then safer to buy "Taiwanese" product?

jerozilla

Quote from: RDY on December 28, 2024, 01:39:06 PM
I think the chance that they're both doing the same steerer as the original product, including the kevlar braid, but from two different factories, is close to zero.

They're almost certainly using the same factory for the fork at the very least.  Frame may indeed be different factories. I think this is the same 'Taiwanese' (probably nothing to do with Taiwan at this point) clone seller with loads of shopfronts on AliExpress. The quality of their frames is usually significantly higher than TanTan.

Interested what store/stores you're mentioning? If it's faux pas could you PM me it? The higher quality than TanTan has me intrigued.

RDY

It's mostly their stuff in the Fauxstro thread.  There you can pay for low, mid or high tier frame (% of high mod carbon used increases and weight decreases). Most of their frames are like that. If that's not the case for the SSE clone then they're probably buying them in from somewhere other than their usual source, meaning there's no guarantee the frames will look anything like the Fauxstros or their other stuff or have the same quality.

Sander2177

Any updates has anyone received there frame yet so some reviews photos would be great anyone know who else is selling these D me.
Thanks

WWcyclist

Quote from: RDY on December 29, 2024, 04:49:23 AM
It's mostly their stuff in the Fauxstro thread.  There you can pay for low, mid or high tier frame (% of high mod carbon used increases and weight decreases). Most of their frames are like that. If that's not the case for the SSE clone then they're probably buying them in from somewhere other than their usual source, meaning there's no guarantee the frames will look anything like the Fauxstros or their other stuff or have the same quality.

I wonder how that statement can be validated, it sure seems that Tantan and Seraph are making very high quality and light framesets.

RDY

Quote from: WWcyclist on January 11, 2025, 10:20:33 AM
I wonder how that statement can be validated, it sure seems that Tantan and Seraph are making very high quality and light framesets.

There have been loads of reports posted here of appalling quality and terrible or completely absent customer service.  TT have always been a lottery.  On average they're better than VB for example.  But their quality is highly inconsistent, and nothing from them has ever looked like the stuff produced by the 'Taiwanese' seller's factory.  If you receive a lemon, you shouldn't necessarily expect a replacement.

Sander2177

Quote from: RDY on January 12, 2025, 06:40:35 AM
There have been loads of reports posted here of appalling quality and terrible or completely absent customer service.  TT have always been a lottery.  On average they're better than VB for example.  But their quality is highly inconsistent, and nothing from them has ever looked like the stuff produced by the 'Taiwanese' seller's factory.  If you receive a lemon, you shouldn't necessarily expect a replacement.

Ok that good info, as someone relatively new this form I keep hearing about these so called Taiwanese sellers, has anyone a link I can go to or a product page? I'm assuming these are Ali Express traders/seller as opposed to OEM/ODM manufacturers

greengoblinbean

Quote from: Sander2177 on January 13, 2025, 03:07:56 AM
Ok that good info, as someone relatively new this form I keep hearing about these so called Taiwanese sellers, has anyone a link I can go to or a product page? I'm assuming these are Ali Express traders/seller as opposed to OEM/ODM manufacturers

Here is their official site: https://taiwaneisen.cc
They have direct copies of most of the current western frames