Is anyone's frame delivery affected by the trade wars?
Is it safe to pull the trigger on a frame now or just wait it out?

I'm in the US and couldn't make my decision on what frame in time.
Looks like I'm going to be waiting it out unfortunately.

Maybe geographic and supplier dependent
I would ask any supplier you're planning on buying a frame from myself.
If you're from the not so good ole  U S of A you maybe screwed.
I ordered a frame Monday last week go told it was on hold Monday then given the all go again yesterday but I am in the UK.

Quote from: PANW on April 11, 2025, 11:15:10 AM
I'm in the US and couldn't make my decision on what frame in time.
Looks like I'm going to be waiting it out unfortunately.

Yes. Same boat.  I have waited to long. I think it will get worked out but may take some time for sure. 

I would t chance it now if not in stock and with expedited shipping

I wouldn't buy at the moment unless you assume that you're going to pay 1.5x on top of the listed price.
Even with a declared value below $800 you're now looking at ridiculous tariffs, and again while we know stuff gets shipped with low declared values, I suspect that will become more risky as the stakes go up.

If all you're concerned about is delivery, I don't see that as a problem. If anything the sellers are likely going to be hungry for sales. They don't pay the tariff, you do.

My understanding is that for China and a few other countries, the De Minimis is being replaced by an enhanced "type 11" process.   This process lets one import items with values up to $2500 USD in a streamlined process.   Exporter/seller has to follow the "enhanced" custom's steps where the seller has to pre-register with Customs the item/s being imported.   Seller's name/business,  Purchaser's name and address, the full 10 digit commodity code,  Item/s value, and then pay up front associated tariffs and processing fees.  This way it makes it look like the seller is paying all the tariffs, but in reality, the seller has to collect the tariffs from the buyer and then pay this to Customs.  If the Tariffs aren't paid, then the buyer must pay the bill before the item clears customs.

My understanding is that it is a similar process to how sellers in other state's like E-bay, online shops, and Amazon have to collect sales taxes for the states they ship their items to.

I presume that this burden will fall on Aliexpress, Temu, and other foreign online sellers. 

Through this process, if tariff rates and policies change, Customs will charge and collect the Tariff-de-jour.   For all of us who used the De Minimis process, those days are gone forever.

I guess I'm going to order some carbon wheels. The days of affordable bike parts is done, so might as well go all-in now!

Quote from: jonathanf2 on April 11, 2025, 07:57:31 PM
I guess I'm going to order some carbon wheels. The days of affordable bike parts is done, so might as well go all-in now!

Do you think your wheels will arrive before 2nd May if you order tomorrow?

Quote from: coffeebreak on April 12, 2025, 12:48:39 AM
Do you think your wheels will arrive before 2nd May if you order tomorrow?

The Tagoola vendor says 7 days is doable with FedEx International. Only with wheelsets already built, like the 50mm depth road and 40mm depth gravel wheels.

Quote from: jonathanf2 on April 12, 2025, 01:11:32 AM
The Tagoola vendor says 7 days is doable with FedEx International. Only with wheelsets already built, like the 50mm depth road and 40mm depth gravel wheels.

I'll talk to them. Was this on Aliexpress or the thread here?

Quote from: coffeebreak on April 12, 2025, 01:20:41 AM
I'll talk to them. Was this on Aliexpress or the thread here?

On the Tagoola thread and my AliEx message correspondence mentioned which wheels can ship once order has been paid.

Quote from: Tijoe on April 11, 2025, 07:19:28 PM
My understanding is that for China and a few other countries, the De Minimis is being replaced by an enhanced "type 11" process.   This process lets one import items with values up to $2500 USD in a streamlined process.   Exporter/seller has to follow the "enhanced" custom's steps where the seller has to pre-register with Customs the item/s being imported.   Seller's name/business,  Purchaser's name and address, the full 10 digit commodity code,  Item/s value, and then pay up front associated tariffs and processing fees.  This way it makes it look like the seller is paying all the tariffs, but in reality, the seller has to collect the tariffs from the buyer and then pay this to Customs.  If the Tariffs aren't paid, then the buyer must pay the bill before the item clears customs.

My understanding is that it is a similar process to how sellers in other state's like E-bay, online shops, and Amazon have to collect sales taxes for the states they ship their items to.

I presume that this burden will fall on Aliexpress, Temu, and other foreign online sellers. 

Through this process, if tariff rates and policies change, Customs will charge and collect the Tariff-de-jour.   For all of us who used the De Minimis process, those days are gone forever.

I think that's mostly correct. Current rule 11 items come in with an invoice from the transporter-ie FedEx or DHL. For commercial accounts they bill after delivery, but for consumer accounts going forward I suspect they'll bill prior to. It wouldn't surprise me if the Chinese shippers do what they already do for Europe, which is offer DPD (duty paid delivery) where the tariff is rolled into the shipping cost up front. This streamlines the timeline. But first you have to have a stable and known tariff....

My frame in transit just tracks now as landed, so I'll know shortly what the current deal is.

Quote from: glepore on April 12, 2025, 03:58:51 PM
My frame in transit just tracks now as landed, so I'll know shortly what the current deal is.

How did it go?