Author Topic: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort  (Read 47826 times)

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #105 on: September 27, 2023, 06:12:24 AM »
The novatec 411/412 are road hubs, that's anyway not the correct for MTB?

I run Goldix Road hubs for roughly 400km.
I am still not 100% sure that the Ratchet will stay alive. But that's also because I read so much about failing Goldix Ratchets. I have 36T version.

I have a non-boost frame and I would change the end caps of the front hub to 15x100 (rear is 12x142). So this would fit. I have done the same with the 791/792 hubs that I am running now...

The R180 are also not specifically for MTB, but I asked the seller to change the caps to 15x100 and they agreed to do that.
They have a MTB specific set, the M180, but that was a lot more expensive, and by the looks of it, the only difference are the end caps and the XD freehub instead of the XDR.

This hubset uses a new kind of ratched it seems. So let's hope is does not fail like the older ones... This is the reason why I have stayed far away from these hubs until now...

EDIT: My MTB only sees very light use. It is for about 10 winter rides a year on some singletracks etc. I don't do big jumps or anything like that. That is why I am comfortable using 24-spoke road hubs on my MTB.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2023, 06:27:05 AM by TidyDinosaur »

Pedaldancer

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #106 on: September 27, 2023, 06:41:18 PM »
I have a non-boost frame and I would change the end caps of the front hub to 15x100 (rear is 12x142). So this would fit. I have done the same with the 791/792 hubs that I am running now...

The R180 are also not specifically for MTB, but I asked the seller to change the caps to 15x100 and they agreed to do that.
They have a MTB specific set, the M180, but that was a lot more expensive, and by the looks of it, the only difference are the end caps and the XD freehub instead of the XDR.

This hubset uses a new kind of ratched it seems. So let's hope is does not fail like the older ones... This is the reason why I have stayed far away from these hubs until now...

EDIT: My MTB only sees very light use. It is for about 10 winter rides a year on some singletracks etc. I don't do big jumps or anything like that. That is why I am comfortable using 24-spoke road hubs on my MTB.

I didn't take non boost into account. There are too many "standards" flying around for bicycles.

kubackje

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #107 on: September 29, 2023, 03:29:11 PM »
Anyone have experience with ryet hubs? Hambinis review of the ratchet ones was positive. I am thinking of getting ryet gravel wheels. They are offered in two hub versions - 6 pawl system or 36t ratchet. I am not convinced to those chineese ratchets. Wonder how the 6 pawls are. I have 3 pawl system in my syncros wheels and they spin very good, even better then my dt350 18t.so kinda curious about those 6 pawls.

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #108 on: October 21, 2023, 08:36:39 AM »
So yesterday I ordered a set of Goldix R180 hubs. Looks like new version and I got a really good early bird deal that I could not let pass.

Planning to build a lightweight MTB wheelset with it.

I really wanted a set of Novatec 411/412 hubs, but every Aliexpress seller that I tried to buy them off had been scamming me until now... So now I'm gonna try the Goldix hub I have been trying to avoid  ;D

I have just done my first ride with the Goldix 180 hubs... These things are insanely loud... Like embarrassingly loud... I really don't like it. I think loud hubs are for show-offs with very expensive bikes and these are the loudest I have heard... I had already put a lot of grease on the ratchets so this will probably be the most quiet I can get them.

Flying Trunk Monkey

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #109 on: October 21, 2023, 06:05:10 PM »
I'd like to hear those compared to my Industry 9 Hydra. I need to get some grease for it as well.

uzelac

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #110 on: October 25, 2023, 06:52:24 AM »
I have just done my first ride with the Goldix 180 hubs... These things are insanely loud... Like embarrassingly loud... I really don't like it. I think loud hubs are for show-offs with very expensive bikes and these are the loudest I have heard... I had already put a lot of grease on the ratchets so this will probably be the most quiet I can get them.

Can confirm, 60T in R180SL is insanely loud.
WIll try 54T from DT 240 EXP to compare, also ordered 36T.

EXP is loud in general...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UIB5j9OEYws
« Last Edit: October 25, 2023, 06:58:21 AM by uzelac »

uzelac

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #111 on: October 25, 2023, 06:55:59 AM »
BTW.

I built 5-10 wheelsets in past 12 months with Goldix hubs and sold them to friends/customers
Following them closely, all satisfied, some are pushing 5000km. Not huge numbers, but still indicative.
My wheelsets are also Goldix, of course, and i have no issue.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2023, 07:00:26 AM by uzelac »

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #112 on: October 25, 2023, 06:57:20 AM »
Can confirm, 60T in R180SL is insanely loud.
WIll try 54T from DT 240 EXP to compare, also ordered 36T.

EXP is loud in general...

Nice to know it's not in my head. Keep us updated... I see there are 18T EXP ratchets from ZTTO

uzelac

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #113 on: October 25, 2023, 07:05:41 AM »
So yesterday I ordered a set of Goldix R180 hubs. Looks like new version and I got a really good early bird deal that I could not let pass.

Planning to build a lightweight MTB wheelset with it.

I really wanted a set of Novatec 411/412 hubs, but every Aliexpress seller that I tried to buy them off had been scamming me until now... So now I'm gonna try the Goldix hub I have been trying to avoid  ;D

R180 is road hubset.
Easy with Goldix, first letter tells if it is Mtb or Road version.

uzelac

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #114 on: October 25, 2023, 08:03:17 AM »
R180SL with Nextie NXT 40/45deep rims.

Will be on bike in next few days :)


TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #115 on: October 25, 2023, 09:50:35 AM »
R180 is road hubset.
Easy with Goldix, first letter tells if it is Mtb or Road version.

Yes, I know, you can read in my following posts why I've chosen these hubs for my MTB.

kubackje

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #116 on: October 25, 2023, 10:27:32 AM »
BTW.

They have many models. If you've choose one, which would that be?

I built 5-10 wheelsets in past 12 months with Goldix hubs and sold them to friends/customers
Following them closely, all satisfied, some are pushing 5000km. Not huge numbers, but still indicative.
My wheelsets are also Goldix, of course, and i have no issue.

uzelac

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #117 on: October 25, 2023, 03:15:30 PM »
i used many of them, R310SL 28h for gravel set, R180 for some road.
R240SL and R180SL just lately, but most of them is on that model that doesn't have model number, no logo, just ratchet 24h and weight around 290 grams. They are just normal ratchet and not to loud, best choice for most wheelsets.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2023, 03:18:09 PM by uzelac »

ultreia

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #118 on: November 05, 2023, 06:42:39 AM »
i used many of them, R310SL 28h for gravel set, R180 for some road.
R240SL and R180SL just lately, but most of them is on that model that doesn't have model number, no logo, just ratchet 24h and weight around 290 grams. They are just normal ratchet and not to loud, best choice for most wheelsets.

So you used R180SL for a new set of MTB wheels, do you know what was the weight you got?

As far as I could see the M180 weights around 350 grams, https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005006065318449.html and canĀ“t see any difference from R180 version who weights the same https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005006057668006.html.

I was just planning to use this Goldix 240EXP, 309 grams, https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003014289678.html.

I did some builds with GDR310 and they were reliable and if not, you could get the ratchets from DT Swiss 350, compatible with them.

What would be your recommendation to build a new XC Wheelset?

nicklej

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #119 on: November 06, 2023, 08:36:54 AM »
I got some new wheels from BITRANZ. Over the moon with them. They use a Goldix 310 rear hub because I need a 135mm QR for my MTB. The hubs felt great and run super smooth. Time will tell. I have had them from 1 week so far and ridden 400 miles which is not far enough to test long term reliability. It was a punt to try these hubs but on face-value, they seem to be the biz...but fook me they're too loud!

The wheels weight 1308g, 29er 30x30mm rims which I'm pleased with.