Onirii One

[TidyDinosaur]

I took the plunge and ordered the fully integrated Onirii One frameset. I'm guessing it will not arrive until the new year but I'll do my best to share pictures/info/weights when I receive it! Hoping to build it up into something nice by the end of january

Looking forward to your pictures I think it is a really nice and sleek looking frame.

[Blueberry]

Received the frame (size M) yesterday. It took 34 days to receive it from the day I paid. Initial impressions: no giant red flags yet but it's also not a perfect work of art. Plus I still need to build it so more quirks seem likely to come up. There is a tiny scrape on the down tube right where it meets the headtube. Also I thought the cables were 100% internal but there is a hole where you can run a cable outside/around the bottom bracket. I may need that since i'm planning on using a 30mm axle and im not positive that will leave room for the brake line inside the frame. The logo is just stickers, no coating over them. Headset spacers have male/female features that lock them into place on top of each other. The only problem with them is that the top one reeeaaallly needs to be forced to fit into the indents in the bar/stem in order to lock into place. I may just need to cut one of the bosses off the top spacer. I'll share more as I build it too. They have faced the bottom bracket and brake caliper mounts so that's always good to see. For some reason I though the stem angle was 7 degrees so I was a little surprised to see its listed as 12, that shouldn't be a problem though. If anyone wants pictures of specific parts let me know.

Weights:
775g - Frame (with bottle cage bolts and front derailleur mount)
354g - Fork (significantly heavier than listed in their Aliexpress store)
60g - Thru axles (both together)
140g - Headset (see picture to see what's included, there are other parts, these are just the ones I plan on using)
335g - Bar/stem (a little lighter than listed, with bolts for computer mount and fork clamping)
182g - Seatpost
8.5g - Seat collar with bolt

While waiting for the frame to arrive I sent Onirii a lot of annoyingly specific questions about various aspects of the frame and they were always quick to respond (within their business hours) with thorough answers.

[patliean1]

Thanks for sharing!

I'm really interested in knowing how stiff the frame is once built. Obviously not expecting crit bike level of stiffness, but I've also read reports the Aethos is more comfort than it is stiff. Who knows...

[jonathanf2]

Looking forward to your build up. Everyone and their mom rides an Aethos in my (hilly) area of LA. Definitely interested in a lightweight, lower cost alternative!

[Blueberry]

A couple pictures of the final bike. I'll post a more thorough review (in a month or so) about how it rides. Things are pretty busy for me at the moment and I don't have much time to test it.

Some notes on the build: I'll get it weighed at some point, sadly I don't own a good scale for getting the final weight of a full bike. It should be right around 15lbs/6.8kg though. I had to go in with a file to clean up some of the holes for wires and brake hoses (hole that leads up to the front derailleur and hole that leads out to the rear derailleur). I'm not a big fan of where the wire exits the chainstay to connect the rear derailleur. It just leaves a lot of exposed wire that should probably be held down with a zip tie. Bottom bracket threads were very clean and the BB threaded in easily. I've encountered some pretty crappy bb threads on brand new bikes in the past but the threads on this frame where very clean and the BB threaded in easily. Once the bikes has more miles on it, I'll take out the crank and check the axle to see if there are any signs of wear from the bearings that would indicate bb misalignment. It was a little hard to see in the the threads where the caliper mounts on the fork but I could see a hint of blue inside, I'm guessing they pre-applied some Loctite.

The most intense modification I made was drilling a hole in the handlebar down by the Junction-A so the di2 wire could exit the bar. Initially I planned to route it through the bar and make a u-turn out the same hole the brake hose uses to enter the handlebar but my wire was not long enough so I improvised

[TidyDinosaur]

That's a nice looking frame. Very clean and simple.

[Blueberry]

I've been riding the bike around a little and it feels good so far! Not as stiff as my other bikes but not a complete noodle either. I took it to a bike shop and asked them to weigh it. The scale said 14.50lbs! Half a pound less than I calculated the bike would weigh. I'm almost suspicious their scale is a bit inaccurate but I'll take it! 

I am going through a slightly headache inducing process of trying to order a new bar/stem from them though. When I ordered the bike, I asked for a 400x110mm bar/stem (and they sent me a bar/stem labeled 400x110 like I asked). Between ordering and receiving the frame, I got a bike fit from my coach and we decided together (after measuring that my shoulders are 37cm) that my 40cm bars on the bike I had with me are too wide and I should move to 36cm bars.

When I finished building the bike, I noticed that my saddle to bar center measurement was around 5-7mm longer than anticipated based on the bikegeocalc model I made of the bike before ordering (this will become important soon). After getting getting the bike fit, building the bike, and riding it around a little. I decided I really did want those narrower bars. Onirii does not make a 360x110 bar so I asked for the 360x100, thinking "oh, I was more stretched out than anticipated with the 110mm stem length so 100mm is probably better anyways.
Onirii said, "sure, $150 please." and I sent them the money with Paypal.
After paying they got back to me and said, "oops, we're out of that size and it won't be back in stock for a while."
I said, "darn. Can I have my money back please?"
They said, "I just measured, our 360x90 barstem is labeled wrong and they are actually all 360x100." and followed up with a photo of the measuring tape measuring the length of them stem.
I did not really believe they mislabeled their bars so I measured mine and found that if you pretend the bar width is 31.8mm my stem does measure to about 110mm but the bar width is more like 44mm and my stem length is closer to 117mm if you measure to the center of the bar. I use Solidworks a lot for work so I decided to import both our photos into a sketch and check some measurements. Based on the photo they sent me, I could tell their barstem was not mislabeled, they were just doing a different measurement from how is was designed and it was indeed 20mm shorter than mine, not 10mm.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt,  I don't believe they were trying to mislead me, I think the customer support person just didn't realized the measurement was not meant to go to the center of the bar (who would?). All that being said, it was an annoying process to go through and we have not reached a resolution yet. I've told them I don't mind waiting if it will only be ~30 days until the size I want is available but if it will be longer, I want a refund. It felt like we were going in circles with them saying "this stem is the length you wanted anyways" and me saying, "I don't care what the label says, I just want the one that is 10mm shorter than the one I have currently. The one you're sending photos of is not that."

**disclaimer: all the quotes are not their literal quotes. I am paraphrasing.**

TLDR: Onirii does not measure their stems to the bar center like I anticipated. If you do measure to the center, they come out about 7mm longer than listed so plan this into your build when you order. Other than that, everything with the bike is good so far and I am enjoying it. Scale said it was 14.50lbs.

[Sakizashi]

The bar wont be measured to the center of the tops, it should be measured to the transition area to the ramps. Another way to think about it is if you size to the center of the tops you need to subtract that distance from the reach of the bars to get your effective reach for the placement of your shifter. Assuming of course that the bar is dimensioned correctly.

[TidyDinosaur]

I would just ask my money back... Looks like they were not really honest and lied about the bar until they had your money and now want to send you a different one they have in stock...
I had the same happen to me when ordering frames (different seller)... They told me they packed the frame with a different size handlebar and asked if it was OK to send because otherwise they would have to redo the packaging.... Of course I declined.

This looks like exactly the same handlebar that was supplied with my Hygge frame and you can get them for way cheaper on Aliexpress (KOCEVLO is one of them), so I see no need to try to resolve your problem with the seller.

[Blueberry]

after a lot of back and forth I told them that if they were 100% sure it was the right size, send it to me and if its not the right size, I will file a claim with Paypal to get a refund. Since I listed in the notes on the paypal payment that it was for a 360x100 bar/stem the bar is (mis?)marked as being 360x90 I think don't think it will be hard to show they sent me the wrong thing.

Onirii did claim that it was just this set of 360x90 (100?) bars that were marked wrong so they had others marked correctly to compare them with. The whole thing is weird though. I'm like 75% sure they're just sending me a legit 360x90 bar. I'll let y'all know what comes in the mail.

[Blueberry]

This looks like exactly the same handlebar that was supplied with my Hygge frame and you can get them for way cheaper on Aliexpress (KOCEVLO is one of them), so I see no need to try to resolve your problem with the seller.

you are very right, I should have done that X_x pretty sure I found the matching KOCEVELO one on Aliexpress. If the one they send me is wrong, I'll try that one. The kocevelo one even has the whole for the the junction-A wire to come out of the handlebar. I had to drill that one myself on the bars I got from Onirii.

[TidyDinosaur]

I found the frame from another seller: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004701406297.html

Nice paint, but also expensive...

[jonathanf2]

I found the frame from another seller: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004701406297.html

Nice paint, but also expensive...

I suspect that store is affiliated to Onirii. They have almost the same inventory.

If you feel adventurous, this seller has the same frame for much cheaper. Though they annoyingly don't supply and bars or thru axles.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804473196294.html?

[rhenders]

If they tweaked this to make it a Crux clone I would be all over it

[Blueberry]

So it seems like Onirii mis-labeled all their barstems (despite telling me initially that it was only the 360x90 ones that were mislabeled) and the one they sent me originally was 400x120, even though it was labeled 400x110. The new one is indeed 360x100 even though it is labeled 360x90. which makes sense, I was expecting to feel too scrunched up but its actually not bad. When I try to measure the reach, it seems to be 75-80mm not 68. I don't have the best tools for measuring reach, but its definitely longer than they say.

As far as the ride quality goes. Its feels good, I really like the 74mm bb drop, it makes the bike feel really planted in the descents. I busted out a 35 second long, low power sprint and took a local QOM on a punchy little rolling hill so it works for that. I haven't really done an all out 10s sprint on the bike but sprinting is not really what I was planning to use it for when I built it.

I'm not 100% happy with the fit. I did a 4 hour endurance ride and my upper back, shoulders and neck were pretty sore at the end. Some of that is my fault, but also it's really hard to get the fit right when the sizes on Onirii's components are mislabeled. The rear wheel sits a tiny bit to the side between the chain stays which is not the best. I checked the dishing on my wheel and confirmed that the issue is not the dishing. Both rear wheels I stuck in there sat slightly to the side. The front wheel is solidly centered in the fork though. On a more positive note, the frame can indeed fit 32c tires. They list the max tire clearance as 30c but I stuck a wheelset in that had 32c tires just to check and they fit fine so that was nice to see.