IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build

[Carbon_Dude]

Hey CD,

Looks (correct me if I'm wrong) that my current fork is the same one you used on your IP-036 build.

http://chinertown.com/index.php?topic=25.0

I have a 2014 FOX 32 Float Evolution CTD Air fork. Will have to confirm via serial number, but it looks like I could lower the travel from 130 to 100 mm.

http://www.ridefox.com/help.php?m=bike&id=32    (2013-2015 32 float changing travel video)

Will try and research more about my rear shock. But it looks I have no option but to buy new one, correct?

The 036 has the BSA option. Will getting an external bottom bracket that converts it to BB92 solve this? Is this not optimal?


Thanks in advance.

Hi Polo7, you really don't need to post and PM me the same message.  I will post my reply below for others to read since you addressed your reply to me.

Looks like the same fork.  However, I do not know what it takes to change the travel.  Most likely you would need to buy a new internal cartridge or something.  I know some forks are easier to change the travel, just not sure about the Fox CTD.  I've never taken one apart.

As for the rear shock, I would say it is likely that you would need to buy a new shock for the frame.

I am no authority on bottom brackets, I guess there was someone on the forum who said you could convert a BSA to BB92 but you will need to do some research and figure out what you need to purchase to reuse your cranks.

[JohnnyNT]

As far as I know BB92 cranks have the same spindle diameter as most BSA cranks (24mm).  The BB shell width is 91.5mm in the BB92 system (with the bearings inside the frame, you should probably measure that yourself to be sure, as there were some 86.5mm shells too). BSA is 73mm wide, so if you find external bearings with 18.5 mm width total, it should work just fine. THM should have some, maybe aerozine as well.

[Polo7]

Thank you.

[Polo7]

Hey CD, what exact Fox rear shock model did you purchase? What reducer hardware/bushings did you buy to fit it to the frame?

036 rear travel specs say 110-120 mm. rear travel for the frame.

What is your rear shock travel on Climb, Trail, and Descend mode?


Regards.

[Carbon_Dude]

The only spec on the shock is that it's 6.5 x 1.5.  Bushings could be frame specific, you may need a slightly different width than I have.  One of the bushings that came with the shock was fine, the other needed to be changed.  Once you know the width you need for your frame, it's easy enough to order them from Pricepoint.

The IP-036 is supposed to have about 110mm of rear travel.

As for travel, I assume Descend mode is full travel, 110mm, Trail is about half of that, and Climb is firm with only about 10% travel.

[nick_n_ii]

Newbe questions here.

How much did the  IP-036 frame run? Where did you buy it? And does it have a strait or tapered head tube?

[Carbon_Dude]

Newbe questions here.

How much did the  IP-036 frame run? Where did you buy it? And does it have a strait or tapered head tube?

Around $700, Peter now at www.xmcarbonspeed.com, yes tapered head tube.

[nick_n_ii]

Cool thanks for the info. I'm considering getting that frame as my base for a new build up this winter.

[Carbon_Dude]

After sending my shock off to Fox for them to check the damper system, I got it back and decided to try reversing the mounting for improved, simplified cable routing.  The cable stop on the shock needed to be flipped around but so far this is the cleanest way I have found to route the cable to a fox shock on my IP-036.  Notice the cable saver where the cable sits against the lower portion of the shock.

[nick_n_ii]

The more I read the more this seems to be the frame that fits my needs and type of local riding. It's also the frame that gives me the most re-usability of my current parts.

I find myself spending hours looking at this frame and rereading this build.

[Carbon_Dude]

The more I read the more this seems to be the frame that fits my needs and type of local riding. It's also the frame that gives me the most re-usability of my current parts.

I find myself spending hours looking at this frame and rereading this build.

Thanks!  Glad I could help.

[turboenterprise]

Any upside or downside for flipping the rear shock?

[Carbon_Dude]

So far all is good with the shock flipped around.  My only concern would be the shock oil may not lubricate as well but I can't be sure about that.  The performance does not seem to have been affected.

I've also seen a few brand name companies flip the shock around.  I'm sure if I called Fox and spoke with the tech, he'd probably have the same concern as me.

[cmh]

So far all is good with the shock flipped around.  My only concern would be the shock oil may not lubricate as well but I can't be sure about that.  The performance does not seem to have been affected.

I've also seen a few brand name companies flip the shock around.  I'm sure if I called Fox and spoke with the tech, he'd probably have the same concern as me.

It's not like you're mounting it completely upside-down. Just make sure you do the seal service regularly - you know, just like you're supposed to do anyway!

[Carbon_Dude]

So far all is good with the shock flipped around.  My only concern would be the shock oil may not lubricate as well but I can't be sure about that.  The performance does not seem to have been affected.

I've also seen a few brand name companies flip the shock around.  I'm sure if I called Fox and spoke with the tech, he'd probably have the same concern as me.

It's not like you're mounting it completely upside-down. Just make sure you do the seal service regularly - you know, just like you're supposed to do anyway!

Yep, I did do an air seal service before mounting it as shown.  The service is simple and the parts are fairly inexpensive.  I also clean the shock stantion before each ride.  I think it shouldn't be problem and I do like the cable routing.  The only other thing that is different is the cable now flexes with the compression of the shock since the distance between the cable exit hole and the shock now varies.  This also shouldn't be an issue but I will keep an eye on things.