Are you going to use a separate bar and stem setup?
I’m eyeing this as well. But the stack really is unusually high if you take into account that the integrated bars will require at least the headset bearing top cap to route the brake lines and the other spacer which acts as a cable cover beneath the stem. That will add at least another 3cm of stack making it very high by the looks of it.
Also, Tan Tan is offering this with BSA, BB30 and PF30 bb configuration (under the Ceccotti bike label) on Aliexpress. So if you think you’re taking a chance with T47, presumably you don’t have to.
Really looking forward to seeing how this works for you.
Here is my consideration. The long version.
Yep I will be using the included integrated handlebars which alleviates the need for the very tall FSA no69 bearing cap. 400 width 120 stem. Gonna run SRAM eTap.
-The handlebars have a reach of
84mm with a -10 degree angle. This is about 9-10mm longer than a typical compact handlebar. Also depending how each brand measures their stems specifically for integrated handlebars (usually from the top cap bolt to the
center of the top bar,
not to the imaginary faceplate and bolts like a standard separate stem) I reckon the stem length is closer to 125-130mm. For perspective, the integrated handlebars on my Winspace T1500 is listed as 125mm, but has an effective reach closer to 135mm-140mm. I'm not joking.
-So the entire reach in totality (frame reach
394 + stem
120 + handlebar reach
84) gives me an overall reach of
598mm. This is only 3-5mm shorter than my typical road setup, and the effective reach of the integrated cockpit will more than compensate for the 5mm delta. Basically....reach wont be an issue.
-The YouTuber Peak Torque made a compelling video a couple years ago, making the case on why slamming your stem isn't a good idea. This is specifically for riders looking to comfortably hold a TT position in the hoods, as studies have proven this is the fastest/most aero position. Elbows tucked in and 90 degrees. His stance is that the larger the difference in saddle height to handlebar height/stack, the more difficult it is to sustain that position. It can really strain the triceps/forearms. And he's absolutely correct. The only reason I slam my stems is for both control and safety in the drops during road races/fast group rides . Don't really wanna be in a TT position on the hoods in a group unless you're pulling at the front or in a solo breakaway.
-Since the x38/Scott Foil looks like a TT bike it makes since for the taller than average stack height. The top tube is practically horizontal and the seat tube is almost vertical. Clearly this frame was intended with TT-whatever in mind. I'm excited to set this frame up in such a manner to investigate if this setup truly is actually faster. And sustainable.
@abdbeg - Those photos are inspiring. Looks like just a couple of thin layers of thin matte black paint and matte clearcoat to replicate that. Gonna do the same but add clear 3D effect sparkle paint.
