Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)

[rasch]

I haven't see a moving LCR so far. Just photos of bikes standing still, so ...

If you add a motor to your bike, you might catch one of us

[WhityWhite]

I rode it in the Eifel (flat / hilly / slightly mountainous).
But I also spent a week on Mallorca with it. tramuntana mountains - Sa Calobra etc... But of course also flat routes.

A great bike.

But of course a different application than a thoroughbred aero bike or criterium bike.

[patliean1]

Did you ever feel like the boxy down tube slowed you down due to its bus like aerodynamics?

If this was sarcasm you win the internet for today. Because I laughed out loud. 

[Maozi]

Hi guys, I'm writing from Mainland China as a newbie to the cycling community, also considering to buy this frameset, looking for some feedback from current users (since there are not so many users in China).

This frameset along with the HBR-013 handlebar is priced at 3999RMB (552.16USD) in China, and is known to the Chinese cyclist community just recently because of its popularity in Europe & America.
For a stringent budget, this is a very compelling choice compared to the 9990RMB(1379.62USD) Specialized Allez Sprint Frame, or any other Big-Chinese-Brand Carbon Frames placed at the 10000 RMB price range.

I'm 100kg in weight, and 187cm tall, and I'm looking at the 58cm size. I'm planning to do a lot of sprint training on my new bike, and I'm wondering whether I'm risking my collarbone and teeth trying to save 500 dollars.

Thank you!

[mheusler]

I'm 100kg in weight, and 187cm tall, and I'm looking at the 58cm size. I'm planning to do a lot of sprint training on my new bike, and I'm wondering whether I'm risking my collarbone and teeth trying to save 500 dollars.

While I'm still waiting for delivery of my frameset and wheels, I would just caution you selecting this frame based on your weight and intended use. This is a claimed "superlight" frame, and I would be hesitant to go with that frame and rather go with a more beefy frame.
I'm no lightweight myself at around 85kg, but I'm not planning to subject the bike to super heavy loads, rather just general road bike exercise (no races).

But, as mentioned, i've not yet been able to use the frame so maybe others can chime in with more real-world experience.

[Da11as]

While I'm still waiting for delivery of my frameset and wheels, I would just caution you selecting this frame based on your weight and intended use. This is a claimed "superlight" frame, and I would be hesitant to go with that frame and rather go with a more beefy frame.
I'm no lightweight myself at around 85kg, but I'm not planning to subject the bike to super heavy loads, rather just general road bike exercise (no races).

But, as mentioned, i've not yet been able to use the frame so maybe others can chime in with more real-world experience.

Down the thread there was a discussion about two versions of the frame: super light and normal, they have 100 kg and 120 kg weight limit. IIRC, they do not offer normal version anymore but I suggest @Maozi to contact LC directly and ask if they have regular version.
I've had some 'cracking experience' with LC before (check Saint Piran UCI stickers thread), specifically LCR0X, and upon further investigation my local carbon repair guy told me the failed area (top tube, where seat post clamp seats in) was poorly reinforced for the expected load. It was eventually fixed and not a critical failure, but it is not pleasant to drop off your main racing bike for over a month. Luckily, it was the end of the season already...

[dinorello]

While I'm still waiting for delivery of my frameset and wheels, I would just caution you selecting this frame based on your weight and intended use. This is a claimed "superlight" frame, and I would be hesitant to go with that frame and rather go with a more beefy frame.
I'm no lightweight myself at around 85kg, but I'm not planning to subject the bike to super heavy loads, rather just general road bike exercise (no races).

But, as mentioned, i've not yet been able to use the frame so maybe others can chime in with more real-world experience.

It seems that LC's quality control department has been on an extended vacation. It might be worth the extra money if you're interested in saving your face and collar bone from any down time or permanent rearrangement. If I could do it again I would definitely stay away

[Serge_K]

I'm 100kg in weight, and 187cm tall, and I'm looking at the 58cm size. I'm planning to do a lot of sprint training on my new bike, and I'm wondering whether I'm risking my collarbone and teeth trying to save 500 dollars.

Thank you!

Welcome!
I've cycled with a lot of people, I can't think of many guys who were 100kg. Point being: you are very much an outlier at that weight. 2 consequences: as advised above, it's probably not advisable to buy a very lightweight frame. The thing is, you'd probably be fine, but if you're not, you'll end up paying for it in ways that retrospectively you'll feel were silly for the 100g of weight saved. Second, tyre clearance. Enjoying the bike is directly linked with comfort, even if nobody really wants to hear that. At that weight, honestly, I'd advise you run bigger tyres than 32C. And so, if you want to look watch YouTube content, the videos on the latest endurance/ all road bikes by Ribble may help. And Pirelli launched 35 and 40C slick tyres and they said they can't make enough of them, they fly off the shelves. So I'd suggest you look at long teng 301, for example. From the top of my head I can't think of too many road bikes that can take 35C or more, without becoming gravel bikes. I'm 80-84kg. 20 extra kilos is a LOT of weight without adjusting carbon materials, tyre volume and so on.
So, ultimately, get something that clears (way) more than 32C for comfort, and confirm with the factory that at your weight, they have no reservations. What matters is that you enjoy your time on the bike, safely.

[mheusler]

It seems that LC's quality control department has been on an extended vacation. It might be worth the extra money if you're interested in saving your face and collar bone from any down time or permanent rearrangement. If I could do it again I would definitely stay away

i would very much appreciate it, if you wouldn't continue to pollute this thread with your tired opinion on the QC topic. You have voiced that often enough, it's clear where you stand with that and at this point you're contributing only noise instead of any helpful advice ...

[dinorello]

i would very much appreciate it, if you wouldn't continue to pollute this thread with your tired opinion on the QC topic. You have voiced that often enough, it's clear where you stand with that and at this point you're contributing only noise instead of any helpful advice ...

Not to be rude but why don't you go and kick rocks if you're not interested in my thoughts on LCs  crap manufacturing and Quality control issues.?

[mheusler]

Not to be rude but why don't you go and kick rocks if you're not interested in my thoughts on LCs  crap manufacturing and Quality control issues.?

because i've read it a couple of times now in this thread. it got old very quickly and is helping absolutely no one with the questions they have.
And i'm commenting on it to try to get you to stop, because the forum software doesn't seem to allow me to block people like you, so i wouldn't have to endure the same drivel on nearly every page ...

[dinorello]

Well I'm sorry you feel that way but I'm going to continue to voice my concerns about the safety and overall quality of LCs frame.  I wouldn't be surprised if you changed your tune after your frame was delivered and experienced some of the issues that I did. 

[neobiker]

Well I'm sorry you feel that way but I'm going to continue to voice my concerns about the safety and overall quality of LCs frame.  I wouldn't be surprised if you changed your tune after your frame was delivered and experienced some of the issues that I did.

So equally, if I told you I bought 4 frames over 18 months and had 0 issues with any of them, among them the LCR017, should we not agree that some mistake might happen?

Shit happens, the question is how often, even the best brand let error slips, are we still bashing them constantly?

[mheusler]

Well I'm sorry you feel that way but I'm going to continue to voice my concerns about the safety and overall quality of LCs frame.  I wouldn't be surprised if you changed your tune after your frame was delivered and experienced some of the issues that I did.

now that's just plain garbage: "voice my concerns about the safety and overall quality of LCs frame". You're doing nothing of the sort or at least not in any constructive and sensible fashion. But you knew that when you wrote it.
I realize that you won't change your behavior even when called out on it repeatedly. So you do you ...
For the rest interested in a proper conversation here, we need to continue to filter out your noise.

[dinorello]

now that's just plain garbage: "voice my concerns about the safety and overall quality of LCs frame". You're doing nothing of the sort or at least not in any constructive and sensible fashion. But you knew that when you wrote it.
I realize that you won't change your behavior even when called out on it repeatedly. So you do you ...
For the rest interested in a proper conversation here, we need to continue to filter out your noise.

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The only noise here is you.  You wanting to dictate what others say and think is fkn odd.