GR029 thru axle warning.

[jstrawks]

I guess the GR029 is considered more of a CX than a gravel frame so I'm posting this warning here.

You may purchase a GR029 from a seller than includes axles, but if you don't, you need the specific axles, particularly the front, that's made for this frame.

Seraph is clear that the price on their website doesn't include axles. That's fine. They're not clear that there's no chance that any other axle that you already have or might buy, will fit that front fork. That's not fine. I'm out weeks waiting for a second order for the axles because I didn't know that I had to have the axles they sell for this frame.

Come on Seraph, be clear...better still, just include them and raise the price $34. Better STILL, lose the proprietary bolt-on front axle and put a threaded insert into the fork.

If I knew then what I know now, I'd have ordered the axles...or some other frame, more likely.

Don't make the mistake I did and order a GR029 without buying the axles.

[jonathanf2]

I guess the GR029 is considered more of a CX than a gravel frame so I'm posting this warning here.

You may purchase a GR029 from a seller than includes axles, but if you don't, you need the specific axles, particularly the front, that's made for this frame.

Seraph is clear that the price on their website doesn't include axles. That's fine. They're not clear that there's no chance that any other axle that you already have or might buy, will fit that front fork. That's not fine. I'm out weeks waiting for a second order for the axles because I didn't know that I had to have the axles they sell for this frame.

Come on Seraph, be clear...better still, just include them and raise the price $34. Better STILL, lose the proprietary bolt-on front axle and put a threaded insert into the fork.

If I knew then what I know now, I'd have ordered the axles...or some other frame, more likely.

Don't make the mistake I did and order a GR029 without buying the axles.

I don't get the logic of some sellers. Just include the f**king thru axles and raise the price. It's just more hassle for the buyer.

[00Garza]

I don't get the logic of some sellers. Just include the f**king thru axles and raise the price. It's just more hassle for the buyer.

Especially if it’s proprietary and can’t be found elsewhere!
They could at least share the specs of the axle and let the end user try to find a suitable replacement.

[coffeebreak]

As if trading these waters of open mold territory was not already treacherous enough. Velobuild is trading on thin ice with the new 268 too by using Mavic release system for reasons unknown. What is this proprietary system on GR029 though, from the photos on Aliex it doesn't look different than regular TA dropouts. Is it reversible 12/15mm threaded insert?

[jstrawks]

...from the photos on Aliex it doesn't look different than regular TA dropouts. Is it reversible 12/15mm threaded insert?

There is no insert. On the right dropout there's just the recess for the bolt that comes with the proprietary axle. Even the tech support people at Robert Axle Project told me they have nothing that will fit.

[Walter-sobchak]

I agree it is frustrating.   For what its worth,  the yxbikes ebay store offers the frame with axles and headset all together at the lowest price.

While you are at it, I would buy a spare hanger from the flyxii official store accessories.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1100498203/pages/all-items.html?productGroupId=211587112&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.smartGrouping_645504537.211587112&storeId=1100498203&sortType=bestmatch_sort&SearchText=&filterType=

[jstrawks]

I agree it is frustrating.   For what its worth,  the yxbikes ebay store offers the frame with axles and headset all together at the lowest price.

While you are at it, I would buy a spare hanger from the flyxii official store accessories.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1100498203/pages/all-items.html?productGroupId=211587112&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.smartGrouping_645504537.211587112&storeId=1100498203&sortType=bestmatch_sort&SearchText=&filterType=

Which hanger? If it's the one I think it is, it's the same one as on my two Carbondas and I have spares. But if I'm wrong, I don't.

[Walter-sobchak]

pretty sure it is this one, but double check -https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800198240324.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.0.0.e36c589eTeFlaH&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21US%20%2422.00%21US%20%2410.34%21%21%2122.00%2110.34%21%402103010e17060179970608896eb671%2110000001573941337%21sh%21US%212777477%21&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa


On mine, the hanger would rattle loose (could probably use some loctite) and the screw isn't the highest quality. So with a small wrench and retightening, I have had the wrench slip a couple of times.  I bought an extra as backup, a cheap part to have a backup on.

[jstrawks]

pretty sure it is this one, but double check -https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800198240324.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.0.0.e36c589eTeFlaH&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21US%20%2422.00%21US%20%2410.34%21%21%2122.00%2110.34%21%402103010e17060179970608896eb671%2110000001573941337%21sh%21US%212777477%21&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa


On mine, the hanger would rattle loose (could probably use some loctite) and the screw isn't the highest quality. So with a small wrench and retightening, I have had the wrench slip a couple of times.  I bought an extra as backup, a cheap part to have a backup on.

Thanks. This is the one that fits my Carbondas. I'm going to see if it fits the Seraph.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801608118745.html

[ChrisB]

Yes it is annoying that the sellers do not always include the matching through axles with frames.
TanTan/Seraph requires you to order all parts separately....

In my experinence the through axles are not as standardized as other parts, so I always make sure to order them toghether with any new frame.
There are just too many variants out there to take the risk.

BR Chris