Author Topic: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201  (Read 49507 times)

canadabike93

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #330 on: December 27, 2024, 12:15:44 PM »
I am 178 cms you think 54 is too big? It looks like I’m on the border

Pardon the mess. I'm currently still building my GR201, while simultaneously stripping down old bike to be sold off. The build is almost finished. Just have bleed the brakes and mount my gravel wheels/tires.

For anyone thinking about getting this frame, please be extremely cautious with your sizing consideration. I mounted road wheels to the frame to offer a visual comparison against my road bikes.

Left: GR201 (172.5 cranks, size 54, 110mm stem)
Middle: Polygon Helios (172.5 cranks, size 56, front end set up more for endurance, 140mm stem)
Right: Tarmac SL8 (170 cranks, size 56, 140mm stem, raised saddle and handlebars to compensate shorter cranks.)

As you can see even with 15mm of spacers the GR201 is only barely even at the front end. The shallower drops will compensate. Also too the bottom bracket drop on this frame is much deeper/than a standard road bike by at least 10mm. Is in reality the saddle to bar drop isn't as extreme.

Angelinho

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #331 on: December 27, 2024, 01:56:01 PM »
Quick Question:

I was playing around with setting up a 2x drivetrain using a SRAM Force road front derailleur. 48/35 chainring.
However, the derailleur hanger on the GR201 frame is too far inboard to attach the derailleur mounting bolt.

Is this by design? I know technically 46t is the max, but a smaller chainring still wouldn't solve this. Would I need some sort of derailleur hanger outboard extender?

Sram's DUB spindle and T47i road setup requires a 3mm spacer on the drive side per their user guide. I wonder if that's where the issue lies. Of course if I removed the spacer the 48t outer chainring would probably scrape the chain stay LoL

Hey there!

There is a specific front wide derailleur. Make sure that yours is wide and not “normal”.
I assume that you are using wide cranks. Rose from TanTan told me that at least for 1x the way to go is wide.

I attach here the specs for the dub spacers in case it is useful for any of you guys.

Looking forward to see your build finished Pat!

patliean1

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #332 on: December 28, 2024, 10:35:58 AM »
My build is pretty much complete for now. Sram eTap makes building up bikes quick work. Currently running a Sram Force road set until I bite the bullet and upgrade to Eagle GX T-Type, chain, and cassette. Photos to come.

A few of things to note:

1. The included headset/handlebar spacers make zero sense. Since you have to route the hydro cables through the specific front holes on spacers, you can't exactly remove them should you decide later to make changes to your handlebar height. You could of course take a Dremel to make a split cut to accommodate the cables. But these type of considerations are standard from more premium brands. Correct me if I'm doing something wrong...

2. TanTan not providing any sort of manual or torque settings is annoying. This used to not bother me since most torque specs are consistent. Seatpost 5-6Nm, Stem bolts 5-6Nm, Derailleurs bolts etc. But again, little stuff like this goes a long way. No torque instructions for the 6mm expander plug bolt. The plug slips upward at 8Nm when pre-loading the top cap bolt. Will probably switch to a Neco long expander plug. No torque settings on the seat post clamp or saddle rail clamps.

3. Both the bottom bracket and caliper mount facings are excellent on my frame. My T47 BB installed flawlessly. And I was able to align both calipers just as quickly as any western brand. 10 minutes tops. Wish I could say the same for both my previous Tan Tan road frames. There was always slight disc rubbing somewhere.

@Angelinho - I actually found a set of wide cranks in my parts bin. Once my 44t chainring arrives next week I'll make the switch. Thanks for the tip!

gloscherrybomb

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #333 on: December 28, 2024, 01:42:54 PM »
Can someone explain to me what the difference is between tantan and Tideace?


Hans66

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #334 on: December 28, 2024, 02:18:17 PM »
Can someone explain to me what the difference is between tantan and Tideace?

I think Tantan is the manufacturer, Tideace is a reseller but i'm not sure

Uberflo

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #335 on: December 28, 2024, 02:57:06 PM »
@ patliean1

The expander is trash as well as the top cap with bolt. I replaced both parts before the build. The same for the bearings.

Angelinho

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #336 on: December 28, 2024, 03:14:51 PM »
I think Tantan is the manufacturer, Tideace is a reseller but i'm not sure

I think you are right. Longteng (LTK) seems that is another reseller.

In the Instagram posts from TanTan they include in the description that they accept OEM and ODM.

I do have for example a Megamo Track frame that is made by TanTan and is also used if I am not wrong by Ridley.

I wouldn't be surprised if any brand that uses open mould frames includes this frame in their catalog.

SunnyShore

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #337 on: December 28, 2024, 04:38:12 PM »
I asked a custom paint from Tantan but they messed up so badly it's almost funny I gotta say...

This is exactly what I asked, down to the specific Pantone colour ID (with the only difference being I requested no Seraph branding):



This is the preview pic they sent me for my frame:



I already wrote to back to ask to get it fixed (wrong colors/too light, fading mid-frame that I didn't even ask for, and "ripple effect" not really well applied).
Let's see if they can make up for it...

jonathanf2

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #338 on: December 29, 2024, 11:40:06 AM »
I asked a custom paint from Tantan but they messed up so badly it's almost funny I gotta say...

I already wrote to back to ask to get it fixed (wrong colors/too light, fading mid-frame that I didn't even ask for, and "ripple effect" not really well applied).
Let's see if they can make up for it...

How'd they mess up their OWN paint scheme? It's not like you asked them to copy something else!  ::) ;D

AFE

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #339 on: December 30, 2024, 04:58:50 AM »
Painting in the making

Angelinho

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #340 on: December 30, 2024, 01:03:46 PM »
One of the biggest flaws in Asian sellers comes with paint finishing.

Even that I chose a simple white chameleon matte paint, my frame comes in glossy finish. They have offered a 15$ computer mount but I don't think that's the way to solve it.

However the frame looks quite nice IMO.

AFE

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #341 on: December 30, 2024, 01:27:54 PM »
Looks like Tantan is not so reliable when it comes to paint jobs?! Hope my Tideace will look like expected. Should be finished tmrw according to Eddy.

sukerbole1

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #342 on: December 30, 2024, 01:58:03 PM »
I asked a custom paint from Tantan but they messed up so badly it's almost funny I gotta say...

That looks bad... I have one at tantan with custom paint being made, hope it looks better than that. Definitely happy I didn't do any "special" effect, however the matte finish I hope they can at least sort out.

SunnyShore

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #343 on: December 30, 2024, 05:37:20 PM »
I asked a custom paint from Tantan but they messed up so badly it's almost funny I gotta say...
As an update for this situation: first I received a proposal for a $50 discount if I accepted the frame with the terrible paint job, which is hilarious considering I paid 8x more for the specific custom paint, so I refused.

So the conclusion: since I still want the paint I requested and the Chinese holidays are coming soon, they will restart production again, but now the frame won't get shipped until half of March.
Keep in mind I paid at the end of November...

Also apparently they now do not paint the plastic lid/cover anymore, since they can't guarantee it will close correctly.
Kinda weird to be honest, but I accepted to get the lid in black now (initially I asked and got an OK for a painted lid).
I didn't want to overcomplicate things, since they're already struggling with basic requests.

I'm kinda mad cause I had all the parts coming in now and was ready to build it up for the first race at the very beginning of March, but now I'll have to wait almost 3 months just to start building it....

At this point I just hope they finally understood what I actually requested.

For the other people that have already asked Tantan for a paint: you need to talk to them like you would with toddlers or a bot like chatGPT.

Basically you have to make sure they get all the instructions point by point, because if there's anything you've left for granted, there's a chance they might fuck it up unfortunately.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2024, 05:39:51 PM by SunnyShore »

patliean1

Re: Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201
« Reply #344 on: December 30, 2024, 06:13:18 PM »
Basically you have to make sure they get all the instructions point by point, because if there's anything you've left for granted, there's a chance they might fuck it up unfortunately.

Which is absolutely wild considering it was their OWN paint job design.

I'll try and remind myself to mention the potential horrors of TanTan's custom paint in my upcoming video. My build is actually finished...
...BUT literally earlier today I stumbled on a deal for the latest SRAM Red 13 Speed XPLR set. So I now gotta wait for that to arrive in a couple weeks, freakin disassemble my currently Force D1 groupset, and get that Red installed.

Thankfully it's winter here so there really isn't a huge rush.