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Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« on: March 10, 2024, 10:59:24 PM »
Have been checking AliExpress every few months in the hope of a cheap(er) disc TT frame coming to the market. My prayers have finally been answered: the TT-119.

http://www.winowsports.com/product/disc-brake-carbon-tt-frame-TT119-road-disc-frame-triathlon-frame.html

BSA BB, clearance for 32c! tires, support for standard stems and mechanical shifting, and relatively modern geometry.

Has anyone had experience with other Winow frames or know who they've done ODM work for? I see it being resold by BXT, but no one else, and the geo seems unique to them.

I am planning to inquire about the price of a frameset without the basebar and extensions and may likely pull the trigger if it's low enough, but would love to learn more before if possible.



ejump0

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2024, 12:31:46 AM »
just to share that im currently building my TT912, and for the stem part, TanTan can source me the same 2piece stem+ 31.8 basebar as on the winow 119 instead of the integrated monoriser basebar that they advertised (if this is your requirement)
« Last Edit: March 11, 2024, 04:05:33 AM by ejump0 »

TidyDinosaur

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2024, 02:46:24 AM »

Has anyone had experience with other Winow frames or know who they've done ODM work for? I see it being resold by BXT, but no one else, and the geo seems unique to them.


The Hygge Model S is also a Winow frame. You can look up the thread here. There are no problems with that frame as I know of so far (I have one myself).

Casio20

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2024, 06:22:35 PM »
How much does it cost

Serge_K

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2024, 05:00:47 PM »
I bought 2 frames from Winow. The other 2 are Long teng. I prefer the LT, but they're very similar. If I have to nitpick, The LT had better BB tolerances (one of the Winow frames, the BB on 1 frame got in too easy compared to the other 3 frames), the Winow seatpost is too thin to house the er9 battery (irrelevant to you, but pretty annoying).
They're all fine though. Havent ridden the Winow ones, but i doubt i could tell the difference. My friends are happy but it's still winter and they havent ridden much. The geometry is a bit more aggressive on the winow, but that's irrelevant to your situation.
They're bomb proof aero frames for c.80kg dudes, basically.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

noodleshop

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2024, 12:20:09 PM »
I bought 2 frames from Winow. The other 2 are Long teng. I prefer the LT, but they're very similar. If I have to nitpick, The LT had better BB tolerances (one of the Winow frames, the BB on 1 frame got in too easy compared to the other 3 frames), the Winow seatpost is too thin to house the er9 battery (irrelevant to you, but pretty annoying).
They're all fine though. Havent ridden the Winow ones, but i doubt i could tell the difference. My friends are happy but it's still winter and they havent ridden much. The geometry is a bit more aggressive on the winow, but that's irrelevant to your situation.
They're bomb proof aero frames for c.80kg dudes, basically.

Love the tractor frame :D which model is that?

Serge_K

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2024, 08:10:25 AM »
Love the tractor frame :D which model is that?

LT268. Love that bike :)
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2024, 10:28:49 AM »
Ended up ordering during the last day of the sale. Opted for custom painting so it will be a bit before I receive the frame. Will post on the build process and result once completed!

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2024, 06:00:20 PM »
Received yesterday. Overall pretty impressed with the weight and paint job. Definitely better than I could've done myself.

Came with a Profile Design bento box, 43asc clone extensions. Seatpost includes a 10mm thru rail. Basebar was 400mm and appears reversible. Included riser bolts mandate using every riser spacer. Will work out thread pitch and length and update tomorrow when I order extras.

Routing exits bars into the stem then down through the top tube, 3T/Cervelo style.

Maximum seatpost insertion is ~110mm due to the wheel cutout; if your saddle height is <810mm from centre of the BB cutting it down will be mandatory.

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2024, 12:36:29 PM »
Info for anyone else who may be purchasing. Spacer bolts are M5, I bought sets in 20mm increments from 40-100mm from Bolt Depot for <$10 to play with pad height. I believe the spacers are compatible with the PD A3A riser kit, but have yet to order and check -- still getting other aspects of the fit dialed.


Some niggles:

- the hardware holding the arm rests / clamping the extensions is incredibly soft. I recommend replacing it right away.
- had to sand down the seatpost to allow for movement within the seattube
- bottle cage mounts are too far down the downtube to mount a standard bottle cage. Even with a sideloader the rear wheel cut out is too large to allow the bottle to sit flush. Might be fixed on larger sizes, but if even a 54 is too small I doubt it. Using a Wolftooth B-Rad to move it farther up the downtube for now, and planning to try the Cervelo aero bottle, which looks like it may clear.
- Stem clamps from only one side and has a weak hold on the steerer. Needs to be torqued to 6-7Nm or it still wants to turn. Going to try adding some carbon paste and see if that helps.


ejump0

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2024, 11:32:51 AM »
nice build

on my tt912, i also suffer the bottle boss so far low, that it just fits the provided Elite aero bottle.
im not sure if TT913  fixed this issue.
On my tt912, i think i used similar stem type as yours (stem n basebar are split components). I smeared lotsa carbon paste, seemed to work. but for my case the 2 bolt got loose after a while. gotta threadlock blue that

Hmpf

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2024, 03:13:35 AM »
How much does this frameset cost?

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2024, 08:53:37 AM »
Frameset + cockpit was $620, painting was $80/colour. Full build excluding wheels came in just under $2100:

Component   Item   Price
Frameset   Winow TT917   $620
Frameset   Frame Painting   $160
Saddle   Specialized Sitero   $86
Bars   w. Frame   -
Stem   w. Frame   -
Chainring   AXS 48/31 Part Out $51
RD   Rival AXS   $110
FD   Rival AXS   $106
Batteries   Takewell   $23
Crankset   Zele-A12X-OS 150   $47
Chain   Force AXS   $25
Bar Tape   Fizik Tacky - Red   $25
Levers   RideRever Triva Hydro   $281
Cable / Hose Damping   Amazon Brand   $9
Calipers   w. Levers   $0
Bottom Bracket   ZTTO 24mm BSA   $12
Pedals   Look Keo2Max   $80
Shifting   eTap Blips   $168
Shifting   Leap Components Blip Mounts+Buttons   $72
PM   Quarq   $270
Garmin Mount      $72
Coupon   Anniversary Sale   -$120
Coupon   TopCashback 40   -$40

Saving by going w. cheaper pedals, saddle, mech v. hydro levers, or 11 spd Di2 would probably get you down to $1.4k-ish all in. Even less if you don't care about shifting from the basebar and do full mechanical.

Hmpf

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2024, 09:31:35 AM »
Thank you very much.
can you say somethign abotu your shifting and brakign solution?
How can you shift at the base bar?

merlin

Re: Winowsports TT-119 - New Disc Time Trial Frameset
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2024, 02:44:58 PM »
Nice bike!

Pretty sure I am going to order one of these with the next sale. Been looking for something that can run 32mm tires. I want that extra comfort. So many triathlons require riding on the shoulder or a road that isn't perfect.

Can I ask what frame size you went with and your height/inseam? I am looking at the 54, which should fit my 182/81 the best based on geometry and my sizing for other brands.