New CarbonSpeed 27.5+/29+ Frame (CS-496)

[Midwest-MTBer]

You know what? Because of the current contest to win this frame I started to really look into its spec (so, yes, advertising works ).

For some reason I thought it was a pure 29+ frame but then I started to notice it shows 27.5+ as well. So, I looked at the geometry today and... I LOVE IT!! I consider this frame as a perfect replacement for my current frame (which is a regular 29"):
- Boost axle (I'd love to use a Nobby Nic in the rear, at least in the winter)
- Short chainstay (actually shorter then my current 29" frame)
- Slack head angle
- Same seat post tube size (I don't have to replace my reverb seatpost!!)
- Same weight (it's good to not take any weight penalty when switching to a new frame)

Actually, the beauty of this frame being compatible 29+ is that running it with 27.5+ will drop the BB, so that I could use an even longer travel fork, to compensate a bit (maybe 10-20 mm longer).
I've been thinking a lot about going to Full-Sus CS-M04 but that's more then 1kg added (frame is +800g, shock is +200g, probably some additional hardware). It offers Full-Sus comfort and grip but a hard tail with 2 Nobby Nic 3.0 would be plenty with a 140 mm travel fork.

So... now I really wish I win this frame 
And if I don't, I'll think again... CS-M04 or CS-496

Wow.. SportingGoods you are lucky! Your wish came true! Make sure to keep us updated on your new build once you receive your frame!

[m789]

hi y all,

a bit OT but still it looks like the same frame;

has anyone oredered the:
2016 VeloBuild carbon fiber MTB 27.5er plus frame for 3.0″ tires

http://www.velobuildmall.com/product/2016-velobuild-carbon-fiber-mtb-27-5er-plus-frame-for-3-0-tires/?attribute_pa_carbon-weave=ud&attribute_pa_finish=matte&attribute_pa_bottom-braket=pf30&attribute_pa_frame-sizes=18-5

or have dealt with velobuild before?
your experiance? is it legit?

the price seems ACE if its the same frame...

thx, br, M

[SportingGoods]

Agreed that price is low. Frame is similar but not the same. For sure not the same mold.
And the frame is a bit light to make me feel safe about it. I always prefer too heavy then too light with Chinese carbon parts.
There is a risk. Worth it? It's up to you to decide!

And note that the fork is not included in that price. It comes extra.

[Sooner10]

I notice on the Lamer frame, that the cable is routed only through the back, downtube. on others, it spans the gap between the front and back tubes.

I think I much prefer the look of the single tube routing. Does anyone know how, or if, Peters frames are able to be done that way?

Keep in mind, I'm a total newbie at this, be gentle

[patada]

can someone hook me up with CS-496 price?.. just ballpark price I'm very interested and email peter yesterday and haven't heard back yet. how do you place an order.. just though email communication... is there no shopping cart or normal web page checkout?

[MVinter]

I dont remeber the price I payed, but somewhere in the 5-600$ area... This was included fixed fork if i'm not wrong.

You order thru e-Mail and get pay-pal info afterwards. It feels a bit strange but I have no negative to say about Peter. He usually answer e-Mail extremly quick!

[Sooner10]

Last week Peter quoted me a price, without a front fork, of $425. For the frame.

[MVinter]

I guess the fork is 100$ + so around 550$ for frame and fork.

[tlmadsen]

Is anybody riding this frame with 29+ tires and the fixed fork. Seems like a "cheap" option to try out  29+

BR

Thomas

[Carbon_Dude]

I am really enjoying my 29+ bike.  I'm not a fan of a rigid fork but I see plenty of people that ride that way.

I was very close to ordering a CS-496 from Peter but ended up finding a used Stache 9 frame on eBay.  I plan on building up a second Stache (hardtail 29+) because I have all the parts.  I may end up selling the bike as I don't need two 29+ bikes and going with a brand name frame will make it easier to sell.  However, if I were to keep the bike as my only 29+ option, I would have gotten the carbon frame from Peter.

[circoloco]

I am finally ready to order and start building that bike, or at least the xmcarbonspeed version of it. I would love to get recommendations on components:

• carbon rims: 40 or 50mm? Peter recommended 40mm
• crankset: do regular PF92 cranks fit? I have a 180mm X9 PF92 lying around here, as I'm 193cm tall, I like long cranks
• tires: which 3.0 tires are good, price does matter
• drop seatpost: same question, price does matter

Thanks!

[SportingGoods]

Good choice! 

Which wheel size do you plan? 27.5 or 29?

    carbon rims: 40 or 50mm? Peter recommended 40mm. With 3.0" tires and Boost Fork I'd be tempted to go 50mm. The reason I picked 40 is because I started with regular axles (front and rear). The only reason to pick 40 mm now would be weight. Other then that 50 mm would fit better with 3.0 tires.
    crankset: do regular PF92 cranks fit? I have a 180mm X9 PF92 lying around here, as I'm 193cm tall, I like long cranks. Don't know! I use BB86.
    tires: which 3.0 tires are good, price does matter I like Nobby Nic. But I've tried Maxis Rekon+ that are great rear tires if you don't have too much mud.
    drop seatpost: same question, price does matter Reverb Stealth, what else?!

[bxcc]

As far as rims go, are you talking about outer or inner width? 40 outer which is roughly 34ish inner are too narrow in my opinion. I'm very happy with 30mm inner rims and 2.3 tires so going to a 3 inch tire on 34mm inner just seems backwards and counterproductive. I'm running the RM950C rims from Peter and I'm super happy with them. They are laced to Hope Pro4 hubs with DT Swiss Aerolite spokes (same as Sapim CX-Ray) and brass nipples (32 hole 3 cross). The weight was 1850ish grams. Using lighter hubs like DT 240's, aluminum nipples and doing a 28 hole 2 cross build should easily put you at 1700 grams.

[circoloco]

Thanks @SportingGoods and @bxcc!!

Which wheel size do you plan? 27.5 or 29?

29+. Peter recommended 40mm so I can run regular 29er tires as well as 29+.
Here's his spec:

• Rims: HR940C 40mm width 29er rims 32/32H
• Hubs: Novatec D711/D712 hubs for 110x15/148x12
• Spokes: Sapim D-Light spokes
• Sapim nipples

I'll ask him for a lightweigt 50mm version...

[SportingGoods]

Sorry I got confused on the cranks, the frame needs BB92 bottom bracket. There are so many standards that it's really confusing! not sure what you call PF92 cranks. A BB92 BB takes any standard crankset (the same as BSA 68 and 73 mm), it's just that with BB92 the bearings are inside the frame when they are outside for 68/73mm BB.

Then, I'd say that you will not want to use regular 29" tires on such a frame. Don't entertain this possibility. Once you'll get into the + size you'll just stick to it, trust me. Pick whatever rims width you want but not for such a wrong reason.
For your reference, the Trek Stache 9.8 uses wide rims: 41mm internal 46mm external.