Carbonda fm936 Thoughts

[RobertRinAustin]

There is a typo on their geometry image.

Got it. Didn't notice they had reversed the two.

[jimmyD]

Has it got 1 eye or 2? Trunnions have 1 eye on one end and 2 bolt holes on the other end. 165x38 should work yes. Will give you closer to 100mm rather than 110mm (we've not quite worked it out exactly) that we get with the 165x42.5 fox .
 A metric shock is simply a shock that is in a whole number mm. Basically when there were trying to standardise shocks across all US(fox) and EU/Asian manufactures they decised theres going to be a range of options with intervals that frame makers can choose from.  Makes it easier for everyone. Although the tune of the shock can still make a difference (although the Giant Anthem shock that alot of us are using works great, despite being tunes for that bike).  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fox-Performance-165-x-42-5-Shock-Giant-Anthem-27-5-Trunnion-Dps-Float/124273032134?epid=7026833371&hash=item1cef3ffbc6:g:rLEAAOSwRDJcCemV


Thanks for the help!! It's got one eye on each end, so not trunnion. But as long as it fits and gives me 100 mm then im happy.

I don't really want to buy new front and rear sus to increase it to 120/110mm at the moment. hoping to just swap the frame and get a new BB.  Is there that much difference anyway? I guess its 10-20% more travel which might be 10-20% better?


I believe you can convert 2 eye shocks to trunnion: https://www.dirtlabs.com/products/trek-trunnion-mount-adapter-kit  Although i expect theres a cheaper one out there.

[theirishrider]

Thanks for the help!! It's got one eye on each end, so not trunnion. But as long as it fits and gives me 100 mm then im happy.

I don't really want to buy new front and rear sus to increase it to 120/110mm at the moment. hoping to just swap the frame and get a new BB.  Is there that much difference anyway? I guess its 10-20% more travel which might be 10-20% better?

You'll enjoy it! The NS sells a 100 option so do all the other resellers (there's many). 100 mm could be better for you depending on the trails

[albar]

Not sure if this link was not posted here.
Real life images of Stevens
https://esmtb.com/exclusiva-nueva-doble-de-xc-de-stevens-imagenes-de-su-prototipo/

[carbonazza]

Not sure if this link was not posted here...

Yeah, it was posted already, a long time ago.

I love the "Designed and Engineered in Hamburg" stamp in the last picture.
Or wait... Hamburg is now in China ? 

[theirishrider]

Yeah, it was posted already, a long time ago.

I love the "Designed and Engineered in Hamburg" stamp in the last picture.
Or wait... Hamburg is now in China ? 

Yes, Hamburg is one city over from Xiamen! Its 1 hour on the fast train and 3 on the commuter.....

Did Steven's actually ever release this?...

[ilyamaksimov]

Yes, Hamburg is one city over from Xiamen! Its 1 hour on the fast train and 3 on the commuter.....

Did Steven's actually ever release this?...

at least their riders ride this frame https://www.facebook.com/stevensmtbracingteam/

[6un4]

Ok, so another go... Has anyone here tried to ride this carbonda and specialized epic evo? ( 2020/2021 )

[dhengen]

Are you happy with sizing down? How does your build ride? Did you end up changing the stem or headset spacers to increase reach/stack?

I sized up and have no complaints.

Yeah, I'm definitely happy with the bike. I was worried it might be a bit small and I'd have to push seat back in rails or go longer stem. But the fit is fine with seat centred in the rails and a 50mm stem. The centre of the bars to seat measurement is within 5mm of my 2019 XL Commencal Meta TR, which has the same HTA, STA so it feels very similar to that bike, but weighs about 10lbs less and pedals like a hot damn! Looking forward to doing XCM with it.

[adroitrider]

Yeah, I'm definitely happy with the bike. I was worried it might be a bit small and I'd have to push seat back in rails or go longer stem. But the fit is fine with seat centred in the rails and a 50mm stem. The centre of the bars to seat measurement is within 5mm of my 2019 XL Commencal Meta TR, which has the same HTA, STA so it feels very similar to that bike, but weighs about 10lbs less and pedals like a hot damn! Looking forward to doing XCM with it.

Good to hear.

I think the difference for me is my height is disproportionately in my legs. Here are my build measurements from my old bike that I used to decide on the XL vs L.

Center of seat to center of stem handlebar stem clamp (virtual TT): 73cm
Center of BB to center of seat rail (virtual ST): 76.5cm
Center of front axle to center of handlebar stem clamp (virtual stack): 68.5cm

With the new build I’m most impressed with how the 936 handles dips, drops, and rough chunk at speed. The slack, low, long geometry puts the body weight in a confidence inspiring position where the suspension works the terrain as the body drives the pedals.

This is perfect for my local trail where it is never flat or smooth but always rolling bumps, roots, rocks, dips, and A line features. Climbs are short where momentum and  bursts of power are needed.

[Dahpa]

My build...  I took what I had, so it’s I mix of  “old” Shimano and SRAM parts. I will change to a 120 mm fork and inside dropper coming days. Did also print some fake Stevens decals.. think it looks nice

 I’m 180 cm and ordered an L frame. Use an 40 mm steam. Have just done a short ride but the size feels perfect. I Will come back with more feedback after that i have changed to 120 fork and done some more rides.

I normally ride XC marathon on a Scoot Spark RC900 WC. My plan is to use the 936 as winter training bike (live in Sweden and the winter is soon here), and next season as an fun trail bike.

[victorike]

In the absence of putting a longer stem and making some changes later to lighten it ... so the "carbonda" remains.

[ilyamaksimov]

its my carbonda)

[carbonazza]

In the absence of putting a longer stem and making some changes later to lighten it ... so the "carbonda" remains.

Nice black version !
Are these your usual tires, or it was a test ? Happy from them ?

[carbonazza]

its my carbonda)

The saddle is set quite forward, and the stem is longer than most.
You like to be on the front wheel