Author Topic: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831  (Read 110494 times)

bbr

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #330 on: October 23, 2020, 07:00:43 AM »
Direct cups, you cant put an angleset on this, maybe with 9point8 slack-R you can, dont see a point going slacker than 65 degree. 160mm travel front , max 150 rear.

Jotegr

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #331 on: October 23, 2020, 09:17:59 AM »
Direct cups, you cant put an angleset on this, maybe with 9point8 slack-R you can, dont see a point going slacker than 65 degree. 160mm travel front , max 150 rear.

Agreed.... I've ridden a shitload of bikes, including many modern bikes with anywhere from 63.5 to 68 degree head tubes in the last year or so, and many, many more before that..... and I don't think head angle is actually as important/precise as people think it is. I could see someone maybe wanting a slight adjustment to go slacker than 65, but with the slack-r you have to drop it by over a full degree.

Aren't you people all talking about running 160mm forks on these? Won't that be slack enough?

Bajker

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #332 on: October 23, 2020, 09:33:48 AM »
Running a 160mm fork will slacken the head & seat tube by 0.4 degrees.

scourge

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #333 on: October 23, 2020, 11:09:09 AM »
Wait, it's 150mm rear now? I thought it was 140mm.

Thrill21

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #334 on: October 23, 2020, 01:21:56 PM »
i hate to accuse anyone but it sure feels like a lot of the people that post in this forum are shills.  I don't know the game but with so many people with low post counts and enthusiastic responses or leading question it feels sort of suspect.
I'm low in posts because I don't like gossip. I like us, as a community to work together for the benefit of all. In this case, the user choose not to share his source but thankfully someone else stepped up and provided that which is awesome.

Thrill21

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #335 on: October 23, 2020, 01:23:00 PM »
Agreed.... I've ridden a shitload of bikes, including many modern bikes with anywhere from 63.5 to 68 degree head tubes in the last year or so, and many, many more before that..... and I don't think head angle is actually as important/precise as people think it is. I could see someone maybe wanting a slight adjustment to go slacker than 65, but with the slack-r you have to drop it by over a full degree.

Aren't you people all talking about running 160mm forks on these? Won't that be slack enough?

Agreed gents. 65 is ample. Just waiting to hear back from their end and hopefully I can process an order

bbr

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #336 on: October 24, 2020, 12:41:17 AM »
Believe me, i have iron out some issue for future buyers.

Early adopters have to iron out some issues.it aint a software patch ::). I guess theres a few here which dont have the patience thus calling out a schill.  ;D

It has come to a point these "open molds" aint open source anymore. There are supplier and there is the real manufacturer & behind that a designer/engineer which can make mistakes.

Everyone here ride a mtb.. Are you the type which helps on trail maintainance or the type which whines about the trail not manicured enough? Anyway..

Try reading my post again.. Take note of the points i've mention. Those points are my contribution.

Someone else will build this frame faster than i do..
No big deal to me but i do look forward to seeing it.

In no hurry to build this during the pendemic..alot of parts are sold out or in back order.

Ive got time 8)



emu26

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #337 on: October 24, 2020, 01:51:54 AM »
i hate to accuse anyone but it sure feels like a lot of the people that post in this forum are shills.  I don't know the game but with so many people with low post counts and enthusiastic responses or leading question it feels sort of suspect.

I know what you are saying. Someone spruiking Trifox again.  She is just learning about bikes but has posted pics of three different bikes she presumably owns, all Trifox.

Hi, hhhhh I just ordered a carbon frame from them, quality is good. The service people are very nice, and I like their paintings.
I am new here and just want to show some of my ideas and learn more about bikes, sorry about any inconvenience caused.

Thrill21

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #338 on: October 25, 2020, 04:30:31 AM »
Direct cups, you cant put an angleset on this, maybe with 9point8 slack-R you can, dont see a point going slacker than 65 degree. 160mm travel front , max 150 rear.

I haven't said this yet, thanks for sharing the info  8)

Verbl Kint

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #339 on: October 26, 2020, 11:16:26 PM »
I posted geo calculations on page 19 of this thread for:
  • Upforking to 160mm
  • Upforking to 160mm and using a 27.5" rear wheel but still use a 29" front wheel (a.k.a "Mullet")

http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,2840.270.html
« Last Edit: October 26, 2020, 11:18:14 PM by Verbl Kint »

eminius

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #340 on: October 28, 2020, 08:14:07 AM »
¨Hi This is a new frame, right now only S size is available.

Other sizes are coming in next year. thanks¨

Jotegr

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #341 on: October 28, 2020, 10:16:52 AM »
That's weird, S only? Why go there first? I'm curious if that is a true to size S or if that is a Santa Cruz medium.

What merchant had S available? The others said M (actually large) was coming first.

Either way, that might be the size I'm after. We'll see.

neuesten

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #342 on: October 28, 2020, 10:20:14 AM »
¨Hi This is a new frame, right now only S size is available.

Other sizes are coming in next year. thanks¨



maybe JUNE 2021???

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #343 on: October 29, 2020, 01:47:49 PM »
I enquired about buying one. Only size Small available. All sizes will be available March 2021.

Gigelz

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #344 on: October 29, 2020, 02:41:31 PM »
Got the same reply. So lets wait another 6 month, no problem as long as they improve the build quality and get rid of the "kinks".