Chinese SC/AM831 Group Buy

[jabbajaw99]

Miracle has agreed to take individual payments.  Everyone will pay Miracle directly.  See EddScott's thread that is stickied at the top of the 29" section.

It is just GB at this time?

[jabbajaw99]

Both of them are listing the frame as 150 rear, 160 front and geometry charts match.  Winow still says 140 rear, 150 front with same geo, too...so idk.  Would be nice to have some clarity on that before purchasing.

The geo looks the same as the hightower so I assume it's the latter. Confirming would be nice though since my fork has a 150mm max.

[EddScott]

It is just GB at this time?

Hi there,

No, shipping to your door now.

https://chinertown.com/index.php?topic=3172.msg26015#msg26015

[zilcho]

So Miracle has some listings on AliBaba with full builds of this frame and they're pairing it with 160mm forks.  Someone with more knowledge of geo/this frame vs hightower, do you think it could be run with 210x52.5 shock and 150mm fork to match the hightower?  160f/150r is bit excessive for my area.

[RobertRinAustin]

So Miracle has some listings on AliBaba with full builds of this frame and they're pairing it with 160mm forks.  Someone with more knowledge of geo/this frame vs hightower, do you think it could be run with 210x52.5 shock and 150mm fork to match the hightower?  160f/150r is bit excessive for my area.

Geo on the Miracle and HT are almost exactly the same.

I think the 52.5 and 150 would get you pretty close. The newest HT is 145 mm rear and a 52.5 would be almost the same.

[Jotegr]

So Miracle has some listings on AliBaba with full builds of this frame and they're pairing it with 160mm forks.  Someone with more knowledge of geo/this frame vs hightower, do you think it could be run with 210x52.5 shock and 150mm fork to match the hightower?  160f/150r is bit excessive for my area.

I really doubt most people will be able to tell an appreciable real world difference between a hightower clone with a 210x55 and a 210x52.5 shock. Don't overthink it too much. If you want a bit less, just run a 210x50 or 210x52.5 and put the fork you want out front.

My build is probably going to be a 210x52.5 super deluxe and a 150mm pike.

[Eddy-haideli]

Dear All:

Really thanks for your supporting of our frame FS-AM831 Enduro Full Suspension bike frame.
Now we have totally confirmed the production time, it would be bulk production on April, and 200 sets would be available in raw marerial around the middle of May.

And we got the bulk order price for you guys.
30 sets, USD540/set( item included frame, headset, BB, thru axle， clamp), not included custom fee, painting and shipping fee.
50 sets, USD499/set( item included frame, headset, BB, thru axle， clamp), not included custom fee, painting and shipping fee.

Now we want to collect the order, since some customer got the different color painting and size.
And the customers from different countries. the shipping way would be differece, we got the shipping, HKEMS, China Post, DHL, WXY( free custom fee）available.

For the painting fee is USD20 for one color(we got the color chart), and USD50 for the chameleon green/purple color, and if you got the customized decals, then please feel free to contact me for the best price.
Any question or help, feel free to let me know.

To collect the order, please feel free to contact me via email and now can be paid the deposit.
Aslo can be chat on wechat, +86 18475368733
email:   eddy@haidelibicycle.com

Waited for you good news.
Thanks
Eddy

[kalssot]

Yes, interested

* Size Large (19") or XL (21")
* Color #1 (Grey)
* Located in Barcelona (Spain)

I'm still interested in a frame :
* Size Large (19")
* Color #1 (Grey)
* Located in Barcelona (Spain)

[RobertRinAustin]

Eddy - is it possible to add a shock and a fork? If so, what are the options?

[jonnybearback]

where can i find the color chart?

[jham]

Hey guys i just got an email from Eddy H about being able to pay them directly for the frames and we could get the discounted price.  I told him i wanted three frames and he asked what color and other info.  Has anybody else been in contact with him? He also asked for paypal info so he could send an invoice for the three frames.  Is this guy the real deal before i send 1800 USD?  I feel way better sending money directly to the company than to a member of chinertown. This is my preferred way?

[RobertRinAustin]

Hey guys i just got an email from Eddy H about being able to pay them directly for the frames and we could get the discounted price.  I told him i wanted three frames and he asked what color and other info.  Has anybody else been in contact with him? He also asked for paypal info so he could send an invoice for the three frames.  Is this guy the real deal before i send 1800 USD?  I feel way better sending money directly to the company than to a member of chinertown. This is my preferred way?

Eddy and Haideli are legit.

where can i find the color chart?

Color chart is on the first page of this thread.

[RobertRinAustin]

Wanted to add this to this thread. It was brought up earlier, but I had forgotten and I doubt I'm the only one.

Just a quick note about sizing.  The AM831 runs a size larger than the SC. A medium 831 is the same size as a large SC. Below are the numbers for both frames.

If you're unsure about sizing,  here's the link to the SC page. https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-US/bikes/hightower
AM831


Hightower
 

[FlaMtnBkr]

Has Top Fire explained what is different with their frame? Or just that it's *different*?

Anyone have experience with both companies? Or even experience with one or the other and thoughts?

I'm in once I read thru everything again...

[RobertRinAustin]

Has Top Fire explained what is different with their frame? Or just that it's *different*?

Anyone have experience with both companies? Or even experience with one or the other and thoughts?

I'm in once I read thru everything again...

They didn't, but based on the way they responded to some of my questions, I doubt the frames are different.