Velo Build R-099 Build

[J-S-Q]

I've been told that the cost to open a mould for a zero setback seatpost for the 099 is $500 (assume the same for 168).  They don't want to front it. 

Any interest from owners or potential buyers? I'd put $50 down.  Only 9 others needed to cover cost of mould.

I MIGHT be interested in that. I was initially a bit concerned by the setback on my 099. Kind of decided it's ok but still.... Could be interested if this turns into a reality.

[Velovelo]

I've been told that the cost to open a mould for a zero setback seatpost for the 099 is $500 (assume the same for 168).  They don't want to front it. 

Any interest from owners or potential buyers? I'd put $50 down.  Only 9 others needed to cover cost of mould.

I am very much interested in this. I will put down USD100 for a zero setback mold + seat post for the 099.
To me the 099 is way better than the 168 (my impression is based off owning a 099 and reading some not so good issues with the 168 setup in this forum). Also because the 099 is physically unique and different from the wanna be SL7 looks of the 168 (no offence intended to the 168 bros   ).

[OlieSimpson]

I am very much interested in this. I will put down USD100 for a zero setback mold + seat post for the 099.
To me the 099 is way better than the 168 (my impression is based off owning a 099 and reading some not so good issues with the 168 setup in this forum). Also because the 099 is physically unique and different from the wanna be SL7 looks of the 168 (no offence intended to the 168 bros   ).

Curious as to what issues you are referring to with the VB-R-168? All I have seen is the common seat post slipping and difficulty in routing the cables through the bars, neither of which are specific to the frame itself.

The VB-R-099 is also based off the Specialized Venge so it's not that unique.

[FHS]

I've been told that the cost to open a mould for a zero setback seatpost for the 099 is $500 (assume the same for 168).  They don't want to front it. 

Any interest from owners or potential buyers? I'd put $50 down.  Only 9 others needed to cover cost of mould.

I'd be interested for $50. At one point, I was convinced I needed a 0 setback seat post. I think I worked out my fitment issues, but it would still be nice to have the 0 setback option.

[RDY]

Already getting close then. $200 out of the $500 required.  I imagine the seatposts themselves will be $40-50, though I didn't ask.

Before heading down this rabbit hole, has anyone actually checked if a Venge seatpost will fit? I know the SL7 one won't for the 168, but I seem to remember some older models would accept proprietary Spec seatposts. 

[FHS]

Already getting close then. $200 out of the $500 required.  I imagine the seatposts themselves will be $40-50, though I didn't ask.

Before heading down this rabbit hole, has anyone actually checked if a Venge seatpost will fit? I know the SL7 one won't for the 168, but I seem to remember some older models would accept proprietary Spec seatposts.

I did a cursory look to see if it did awhile back. Im pretty sure it won't. If I thought it would at the time I looked, I probably would have picked one up.

[zaphodbeeblebrox]

I would also be interested in a 0 setback seat post.

[RDY]

I would also be interested in a 0 setback seat post.

Does that mean you're willing to pay $50 towards opening the mould?

[StiffWeenies]

Does that mean you're willing to pay $50 towards opening the mould?

Is that how much opening a mould costs? I honestly wouldn't mind paying extra (up to 200 USD?) for changes like a round seatpost (27.2, 30.9 or 31.6mm), headset system of choice (DCR, ACR, Token or First) , FD braze-on mount delete (1x), RD direct mount hanger, 32c clearance, and revised brake calliper bolt hole spacing (160mm front/rear flush mount like Open Mind & 3T Exploro Racemax). All those features added to a Workswell WCB-R-369 would be an absolute dream of mine.

[zaphodbeeblebrox]

Does that mean you're willing to pay $50 towards opening the mould?

Yep.

[J-S-Q]

Is that how much opening a mould costs? I honestly wouldn't mind paying extra (up to 200 USD?) for changes like a round seatpost (27.2, 30.9 or 31.6mm), headset system of choice (DCR, ACR, Token or First) , FD braze-on mount delete (1x), RD direct mount hanger, 32c clearance, and revised brake calliper bolt hole spacing (160mm front/rear flush mount like Open Mind & 3T Exploro Racemax). All those features added to a Workswell WCB-R-369 would be an absolute dream of mine.

Well 32c clearance is at least one thing you DO already have with the R-099. I have 32c's on mine and they fit perfectly well.

[RDY]

Is that how much opening a mould costs? I honestly wouldn't mind paying extra (up to 200 USD?) for changes like a round seatpost (27.2, 30.9 or 31.6mm), headset system of choice (DCR, ACR, Token or First) , FD braze-on mount delete (1x), RD direct mount hanger, 32c clearance, and revised brake calliper bolt hole spacing (160mm front/rear flush mount like Open Mind & 3T Exploro Racemax). All those features added to a Workswell WCB-R-369 would be an absolute dream of mine.

See below. I posted it yesterday.  Already we probably have $250 out of $500 needed. If I can put you down for $50 then that's $300 out of $500.  I'll ask about direct mount hanger if and when we get this done.  It should be fairly low hanging fruit, especially as I think the 099 and 168 use the same.

I've been told that the cost to open a mould for a zero setback seatpost for the 099 is $500 (assume the same for 168).  They don't want to front it. 

Any interest from owners or potential buyers? I'd put $50 down.  Only 9 others needed to cover cost of mould.

[StiffWeenies]

See below. I posted it yesterday.  Already we probably have $250 out of $500 needed. If I can put you down for $50 then that's $300 out of $500.  I'll ask about direct mount hanger if and when we get this done.  It should be fairly low hanging fruit, especially as I think the 099 and 068 use the same.

Sorry, my words were unclear and I mislead you. I was wondering aloud about what the ballpark for opening a frame mould would be. If I were to go ahead, it'd be with the Workswell 369 and not this Velobuild 099.

It makes me think though, a group of us could get together and structure any potential deal like a group buy. Forum special edition framesets anyone? I've actually participated in something like this in the past but with watches so it's doable albeit very hard work.

[Snacks]

Sorry, my words were unclear and I mislead you. I was wondering aloud about what the ballpark for opening a frame mould would be. If I were to go ahead, it'd be with the Workswell 369 and not this Velobuild 099.

It makes me think though, a group of us could get together and structure any potential deal like a group buy. Forum special edition framesets anyone? I've actually participated in something like this in the past but with watches so it's doable albeit very hard work.

It’s about $10,000 per mould per size. That’s just the mould cost, you’d still have to pay someone for materials and labor to manufacture the frame.

[Bikeoiv]

Does anyone know if there's a 3rd party headset that works with the frame?
My handlebars/stem are too wide/long.
I know they now have a separate bar/stem, but I would love to be able to use any stem/handlebar combo.

I could be interested in the seat post. Have you got a price for it, other than the mould price?