FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame

[Freda]

I had the opposite problem on my fm1001, I couldn’t get the fork/stem tight enough to work without play. It was touching the frame, not much but enough even with both shims with the carbonda bearingset. I tried to fill the upper bearing cup with very slim tape. It worked but felt like a cheap solution. I solved it by sanding of maybe half a millimetre from the upper part of the headtube.

Now it is perfect. Still I always put loads of  marine grease on the bearings to at least prevent some of the moist getting in. It has been running for over a year without problems.

[aussiebeeb]

my build is done 

parts
complete xt drivetrain and 4piston breaks
fork RS lyrik ultimate
rearshock RS super deluxe ultimate coil
dropperpost one up 170mm
wheels unbrandet newmen 30mm w new dt swiss 350
tires maxxis minion dhr and dhf
cockpit truvativ descendant
sram grips
saddle sqlab 611
pedals one up composite

weight 14kg w/o tiresealent (i´ll do it tomorrow)

Hi bruggnputzpepi,

Love the look of your bike. How did you find the coil shock?

If you don't mind me asking - how much do you weigh and what coil spring rate did you use?

[Massey]

If anyone in the uk is in need of an XL frame I have mine for sale on pinkbike just now https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3584168/

I have it up for £700 with shock on pinkbike but anyone on here wants it I can do it £600 plus shipping. I paid £850 for the frame and £300 the shock so would be getting a great deal!

[casual_build]

I may have someone who is interested here in the states, but they want to know if broke your wrist while riding it?

[Massey]

I may have someone who is interested here in the states, but they want to know if broke your wrist while riding it?

Only just saw your reply now sorry! I would be happy to send over if shipping costs where covered.

I didn't surprisingly, annoyingly it was actually playing football (soccer). Ball hit my wrist, pushed it back and fractured near the joint. Messed up my summer riding and still having small issues with it now! 

[ghiabici]

After a few tweaks and set up changes (the ODI grips from AliExpress went straight in the bin after the first ride), finally got my small FM1002 how I want it.

I was concerned the reach of the small would be too little for me at 172cm, especially given the steep seat angle. But it feels very nice after some bar roll adjustments.

This is in an orange (YS7192) and Rainbow. The paint looks amazing (but does chip easily as others have said). Lots of protective tape solves this though!

[Crankydad]

Hi everyone,

I’m highly considering purchasing the Carbonda FM1002. I’m been reading this thread as well as the FM1003 thread too to get comparison. I  want to get an update from everyone on how their experience with their FM1002 has been so far. My takeaway from the FM1003 thread has been that it’s more for gnarlier terrain and can almost be considered downhill bike because of its weight and geo compared to the FM1002. And that the FM1002 can almost be considered a trail bike compared to FM1003. I might have got that from FullCarbonAlchemist, I know he’s  a big proponent of FM1002.

I’m searching for an enduro bike to take to bike park and do jumps, handle tech terrain (3-4 ft drops, rock gardens), and still be a descent climber.

Right now, I’m currently riding an ICAN P1 size medium I’ve had for about 2 years now. I’m 178cm tall. The geo on the ICAN I feel is outdated, 68.5 degree headtube angle, 448mm reach, 1170mm wheelbase. I’ve demoed the YT Capra in large and Intense Tracer 29 in Large, and it feels so much more comfortable and I feel more confident riding tech terrain and jumps on it.

Please let me know what your experience has been with the FM1002? Would you purchase it again today? And any tips or things to be considered before purchasing?

I’m in conversation with Katie at Carbonda and close to buying it.

Thanks!

Crankydad

[Boybiskit]

I would recommend the 1002. It's almost exactly a year since we built a 1002 with a 170mm Fox 36 for my son. He has been absolutely hammering it and no problems at all with the frame. He rides everything from big day rides to Whistler park on it. I've ridden it a couple of times just to get a feel for it and really like it.

I would recommend having a careful think about size through. I am 178cm and would be right on the line between medium and large. Personally I'd be tempted to go medium because I think the reach on some bikes is now too long, but it really just depends on what you prefer.

See if you can negotiate a discount. When I looked at Carbonda recently for another build they were a little more expensive than some other options.

[TIMDOR576]

I have a couple quick questions for you guys!

Does anyone have the max seatpost insertion depth for a size M?

Also, I am planning to build this up with a 150mm fork. Interestingly enough, a size L FM-1001 overforked to 150mm has nearly the same geo as a size M FM-1002 underforked to 150mm.
The main difference between the two is that the 1001 has 135mm rear travel vs the 1002 has 150mm. The reach, stack, head tube angle, wheelbase, chainstay length, etc are all within 0.5deg or 0-10mm difference.
Does anyone have experience underforking this bike to be a 150/150?

Thanks!

[Crankydad]

I would recommend the 1002. It's almost exactly a year since we built a 1002 with a 170mm Fox 36 for my son. He has been absolutely hammering it and no problems at all with the frame. He rides everything from big day rides to Whistler park on it. I've ridden it a couple of times just to get a feel for it and really like it.

I would recommend having a careful think about size through. I am 178cm and would be right on the line between medium and large. Personally I'd be tempted to go medium because I think the reach on some bikes is now too long, but it really just depends on what you prefer.

See if you can negotiate a discount. When I looked at Carbonda recently for another build they were a little more expensive than some other options.

Thank you Boybiskit! I really appreciate you sharing your experience. Good to know even on big park days like Whistler it can handle it. Will look into sizing again.

Crankydad

[casual_build]

I have a couple quick questions for you guys!

Does anyone have the max seatpost insertion depth for a size M?

Also, I am planning to build this up with a 150mm fork. Interestingly enough, a size L FM-1001 overforked to 150mm has nearly the same geo as a size M FM-1002 underforked to 150mm.
The main difference between the two is that the 1001 has 135mm rear travel vs the 1002 has 150mm. The reach, stack, head tube angle, wheelbase, chainstay length, etc are all within 0.5deg or 0-10mm difference.
Does anyone have experience underforking this bike to be a 150/150?

Thanks!

In general, the seat post insertions is no problem for this frame. On my large frame, I can fully insert my 180mm OneUp V2 dropper, almost 27cm of insertion.

Regarding the overfork/underforking questions, the reach would be quite different. The FM1002 has much more reach than the FM1001. Underforking the FM1002 would increase the reach even more. Over forking the FM1001 would decrease the reach even more. I would guess 5-9mm difference each way, plus the 7mm built in difference so the two builds would have a 17-25mm in total reach difference.


Personally, I would recommend overforking for both bikes! My 170mm Lyrik puts me at 64 degrees with the head angle and make my large frame feel more medium. I think the FM1002 is the best, just don't count on the paint being perfect if you go with Carbonda!

[Crankydad]

In general, the seat post insertions is no problem for this frame. On my large frame, I can fully insert my 180mm OneUp V2 dropper, almost 27cm of insertion.

Regarding the overfork/underforking questions, the reach would be quite different. The FM1002 has much more reach than the FM1001. Underforking the FM1002 would increase the reach even more. Over forking the FM1001 would decrease the reach even more. I would guess 5-9mm difference each way, plus the 7mm built in difference so the two builds would have a 17-25mm in total reach difference.


Personally, I would recommend overforking for both bikes! My 170mm Lyrik puts me at 64 degrees with the head angle and make my large frame feel more medium. I think the FM1002 is the best, just don't count on the paint being perfect if you go with Carbonda!

I just recently completed the purchase for an FM1002 frame! I look forward to sharing more about the build, and how everything works out!

Thank you everyone for sharing feedback.

Crankydad

[TIMDOR576]

In general, the seat post insertions is no problem for this frame. On my large frame, I can fully insert my 180mm OneUp V2 dropper, almost 27cm of insertion.

Regarding the overfork/underforking questions, the reach would be quite different. The FM1002 has much more reach than the FM1001. Underforking the FM1002 would increase the reach even more. Over forking the FM1001 would decrease the reach even more. I would guess 5-9mm difference each way, plus the 7mm built in difference so the two builds would have a 17-25mm in total reach difference.


Personally, I would recommend overforking for both bikes! My 170mm Lyrik puts me at 64 degrees with the head angle and make my large frame feel more medium. I think the FM1002 is the best, just don't count on the paint being perfect if you go with Carbonda!

I'm leaning towards not this frame after all.
I currently ride a trail bike with 455mm reach which feels short.
The FM1002 size M has a reach of 457 which is pretty dead on, and underforking it by 10mm brings that up to 462 which is an improvement but not by much.
I think the best fit would be a L frame, but the 440mm seat tube length is too tall for me.

The struggles of short legs and long reach, my body geo makes bike shopping hard lol

[casual_build]

 General Update, Almost a year since building:

I'm 77kg and 177cm tall and loving my large, overforked, FM1002 .

I was originally afraid this would be "too much bike" for me... Looking back, I've no idea why I was worried. If I didn't already have a FM936, I would have built a FM1001. But I did have a the FM936 so I built this FM1002 as an aggressive trail bike for the stuff my FM936 can't handle.  My FM936 is collecting dust as I always pick the FM1002 to ride no matter the trail. Although its 2KG more, It's just a more fun bike.

The main difference is this:
On the trials the FM936 is holding me back. On the same trails I'm holding the FM1002 back. Both going down and climbing up.
Also the BB height

Fantastic bike, can be very plush, but a little extra air in the rear make its super poppy too. Basically, I think this particular 4 Bar design has nice ratios.

[impmonkey]

Found this same frame on eBay from the now defunct Framed bikes.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/335011134872?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=-aE-pL5DTGu&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=UVhJkGg3R3u&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Low balled the seller with a 500 dollar offer and he took it. Not a huge fan of the yellow, but will probably cut a new logo to cover it.