Author Topic: My first bike build: IP-256SL  (Read 12036 times)

WorkingHPRs

My first bike build: IP-256SL
« on: October 07, 2014, 03:55:25 AM »
Going to use this thread to document my IP-256SL build. Plan is to use it for 24 hour team xc races and it will probably form the basis of my first attempts at cyclocross before sorting out my CX bike. Bike will be largely built with 2nd hand Ebay sourced parts.

Ordered 20th September. I'm based in the UK.

Frame is a 21" IP-256SL. It arrived in UK customs on 25/9/2014. Customs charge was a very reasonable £37 inc the Post Offices £13 fee. Finally picked it up on 14/10/2014.

Wheels are the 35mm (30mm internal) hook less which will run DT Swiss 350 hubs. Rims have arrived but 1 of the hubs got lost (sent to Vietnam apparently) in the post so awaiting replacement). Rims were delivered 30/9/2014, 10 days to my door is pretty impressive!

Drive train will be SRAM X1 (weight of rear cassette is quite interesting!). Sourced X1 kit from Ebay, new straight off of a bike.

Braking is Shimano XTR BR-M988 Trail. Sourced nearly new off of Ebay. XTR RT99 180mm Rotors up front (Bargain from Merlin @ £40 for 2!) and XT RT86 Ice-Tec 160mm at rear.

Front suspension RS Sid XX world cup. New unused off of Ebay. Only worry about this is that it is 120mm travel not 100mm.

Have added build spreadsheet.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2014, 10:18:53 AM by WorkingHPRs »



WorkingHPRs

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2014, 03:55:49 AM »
Reserved

WorkingHPRs

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2014, 03:56:00 AM »
reserved

carbonazza

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2014, 04:16:19 AM »
If you talk with the customs, or the post office, and if you have your frame unpainted (raw carbon finish), let them know.
As this kind of frame is out of the 48.5% anti-dumping fee they should apply per European laws.
Painted frames fall under the anti-dumping.

WorkingHPRs

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2014, 07:04:08 AM »
I've seen mention of this elsewhere (no anti-dumping on unpainted frames) but can't find anything in the UK regulations that supports this (unpainted exemption), which is a shame. I wonder if this is something else the UK has decided to opt out of  ::) I chose unpainted matt finish for all the components.

flanglian

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2014, 07:11:42 AM »
Irrespective of whether they are painted or not, individual frames are exempt from ADD and subject only to import duty at 4.7% and VAT at standard rate.

https://www.gov.uk/trade-tariff/headings/8714?country=&day=7&month=10&year=2014

WorkingHPRs

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2014, 07:32:05 AM »
Hopefully that will be the case, although oddly I can't see any means of disputing the charges with the Royal Mail. Presumably I'll have to go direct to HMRC.

Anyway, hopefully I will have a card waiting for me at home which will tell me how much I owe!

carbonazza

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2014, 07:40:11 AM »
flanglian, if you look at https://www.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/8714911039?country=&day=7&month=10&year=2014#import
Which is the import tab of the page you referenced.

You can find the Additional code 8900
Which means if you are not amongst the exempted, you get the ADD.

While the non painted frames have this code:
https://www.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/8714911089?country=&day=7&month=10&year=2014#import
Which does not have those additional code, and ADD.

These are not UK specific codes, they are the same in all Europe.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2014, 07:53:33 AM by carbonazza »

WorkingHPRs

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2014, 03:31:44 AM »
Thankfully only charged VAT, with the Parcelforce "clearance" charge it came in at £37. Bits should arrive Friday. :)

Ken4

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2014, 06:20:58 AM »
Im using 120mm 51mm offset fork too with my IP-256SL, seems to work well, including 15mm headset spacers and 20mm handlebar rise. No worries.  I ride mostly singletrack and it feels great. Even on really steep climbs it is manageable.  :)

WorkingHPRs

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2014, 03:41:43 AM »
Uh oh... What is the offset of the fork and how can I find out? (possible newbie error coming right up!) never heard of offset before  :o

carbonazza

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2014, 04:18:48 AM »
If you draw a line along the headtube center axis.
Then draw a parallel line, passing through the center of the front wheel.

The offset is the distance between the two lines.

Ken4

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2014, 06:44:13 AM »
I prefer the longer offset forks bcos 29ers tend to have toe overlap issues when using flat pedals.

Sitar_Ned

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2014, 10:24:04 AM »
Uh oh... What is the offset of the fork and how can I find out? (possible newbie error coming right up!) never heard of offset before  :o

Hopefully, someone can chime in with more specific info.. but when I was researching different offsets of forks and pairing them either the 057 or 256, I came across builds of both frames that were using forks that run the entire gamut of offsets.. they all worked just fine. I think it comes down to which you get accustomed to it.

If there is an optimal fork offset for these frames, I like to know it, if someone has that info?

WorkingHPRs

Re: My first bike build: IP-256SL
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2014, 12:27:59 PM »
Finally got the bits in my hands :) Pictures and weights to follow.