Author Topic: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build  (Read 137013 times)

Carbon_Dude

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #60 on: November 28, 2014, 11:23:29 AM »
Q-factor and BB style are independent of each other.
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ChanceG

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #61 on: November 28, 2014, 01:27:20 PM »
Q-factor and BB style are independent of each other.

Sorry for the noob ?'s but I don't understand. Will this crankset, BB30 w/q156, work with the 036 frame?

Carbon_Dude

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #62 on: November 28, 2014, 05:43:27 PM »
If you order a frame with a BB30 bottom bracket and don't mind having about 4-5mm less clearance (8 instead of 13mm or so) between your crank arms and chainstays then you will be fine.
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ChanceG

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2014, 09:13:45 PM »
Thanks for the heads up. I think I'm gonna just go with q168. I had a local guy selling one at a good price and didn't know if I should have jumped on it.

I think I'm gonna give the x1 group a try with xt brakes.....

I am getting ready to order the 036 from Peter soon, trying to check on painting options they have. Did everyone that got there painted like the paint finish?

Also, how are the other parts from Peter, ie handlebars, stem, seatpost, 12x142 maxle, etc..bc I am going to need to order all that he has for the bike.

If anyone selling any extras lmk, I'm in market, lol

CD - thanks for the awesome threads and detailed build!

Chance

Carbon_Dude

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #64 on: December 08, 2014, 10:09:52 AM »
I can marginally recommend the paint work by iPlay.  It's not the super high quality paint work you will see on the name brand bikes, but it's better than anything I would do myself and the cost is reasonable.

As for the other parts from Peter, they all seem to be pretty good, bars, seatpost, axles, etc.  Reasonable prices on decent quality items.
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2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

Andy

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #65 on: December 08, 2014, 04:55:02 PM »
CD if you're a Geax fan you just gotta try the Gato 2.3 up front.  Rolls fast, comfy and incredible grip.  Highly recommended!!!!
Andy
Ip036
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You are welcome.

I was able to get rid of my creaking issue by lubricating the pivots at the top tube and seat stays with some everyday liquid teflon lubricant.

I also replaced my grips with some Ritchey WCS True foam grips, so far they are my favorite grips.

Got about 300 miles on the bike now and she is so much fun to ride.  Next change will probably be a new set of tires, probably not right away but after the ones I have wear out I plan on going with another set of Geax Sagauro tires like I have on my IP-057.

Carbon_Dude

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #66 on: December 08, 2014, 07:24:30 PM »
Thanks Andy!  When I'm ready for some new tires, I will look into that combo.

On another note, I won't be riding for a while, I broke my leg while on vacation last week.  A pretty bad break too, looks like I'll need surgery on it to make sure everything heals properly.
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2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

davidriddel

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #67 on: December 08, 2014, 08:00:59 PM »
That's a tough break Carbon_Dude (pardon the pun!).

Get well soon...

(I'm using your thread to assemble a 27.5 full suspension Yoeleo for my daughter this week)...
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davidriddel

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #68 on: December 19, 2014, 06:19:24 AM »
Carbon_Dude -- you have both a hard tail and a soft tail.  Did you buy the same frame size for the two?  How different is the geometry?

I have a 19 inch hard tail (Yoeleo), and I'm just about to order a 19 inch soft tail (also Yoeleo), but I'd thought I'd check with someone whom has both a HT & ST before I commit...
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Carbon_Dude

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #69 on: December 19, 2014, 06:38:55 PM »
Carbon_Dude -- you have both a hard tail and a soft tail.  Did you buy the same frame size for the two?  How different is the geometry?

I have a 19 inch hard tail (Yoeleo), and I'm just about to order a 19 inch soft tail (also Yoeleo), but I'd thought I'd check with someone whom has both a HT & ST before I commit...

Yes, same frame size for both.  For me, at 5'-11", a Large (19") frame fit me well for both frames.

Geometry is different, even though the FS frame has a longer wheelbase, I feel like my seating position is a bit further forward.  However, both frames feel good and the geometry on both frames performed well.  Obviously there are differences and some compromises on a FS frame given the greater complexity.  The geometry of the IP-057 is similar to a Scott Scale, the IP-036 is similar to a Scott Spark if that helps you at all.

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2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

davidriddel

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2014, 08:45:18 PM »
Yes, same frame size for both.  For me, at 5'-11", a Large (19") frame fit me well for both frames.

Geometry is different, even though the FS frame has a longer wheelbase, I feel like my seating position is a bit further forward.  However, both frames feel good and the geometry on both frames performed well.  Obviously there are differences and some compromises on a FS frame given the greater complexity.  The geometry of the IP-057 is similar to a Scott Scale, the IP-036 is similar to a Scott Spark if that helps you at all.

Thanks Carbon_Dude, I've committed.  There is a 5% discount for the next fortnight with Yoeleo, which helps with the Aussie $ having dropped by 10% against the USD in the last 6 months...  arrghh!!
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N+2 change my Al CX to C
Also - Yoeleo 650B Dually YCMSF10 and Cyclocross for daughter
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gbgigli

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #71 on: January 21, 2015, 05:45:11 PM »
Hello Friends.
Im looking to buy a IP-036 from Peter.

Could someone give me more specifcs on shock configuration?
Its a 165x38mm shock, correct?

And what about bushings, wich ones do i need and measures? I was looking at some shocks and every store says "No bushings included, you will need to buy a pair". And then there is a lot of measures.

Thanks for the help!

turboenterprise

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #72 on: January 21, 2015, 06:27:58 PM »
Yes 165x38 or 6.5x1.5.   I measured my 036 at 22.2 and 22.7mm so i purchased two RWC http://www.enduroforkseals.com/id275.html one shim.  I used a digital caliper to measure the gaps but others have reported 22.2 on both sides. 

gbgigli

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #73 on: January 21, 2015, 07:07:20 PM »
Yes 165x38 or 6.5x1.5.   I measured my 036 at 22.2 and 22.7mm so i purchased two RWC http://www.enduroforkseals.com/id275.html one shim.  I used a digital caliper to measure the gaps but others have reported 22.2 on both sides.

Thanks for the reply!
So i would need the shock + 2 X 22.2 rwc mounting spans (62 bucks) ?

Im planning on using a DT Swiss Shock. Could i use 2 of these sets:

http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;navigation=1;product=6310;page=1;menu=1000,2,119;mid=0;pgc=0;orderby=2

In the 22.2 measure. If yes... would it be 8mm ? Thanks

turboenterprise

Re: IP-036 29er Full Suspension Carbon Frame Build
« Reply #74 on: January 21, 2015, 07:24:09 PM »
yes mine were 8mm. Those dtswiss bearings are a bit different than the RWC so I am not sure. Right 2x22.2 and one shim possibly.