japjoe7 Carbonda FM1001 build thread

[japjoe7]

First dual suspension bike. Been riding a hardtail for many years. Can't afford to throw down $4k-$6k in one shot so I'm leveraging AliExpress and using used parts. It's still expensive of course but a least I can build it up over the next 6 months. Here is my list of components so far. and attached Excel spreadsheet with cost. The build will be a little dynamic in that I will change some conponents choices depending on how I'm feeling and research. I still have a bunch of stuff to add to my list.

Btw, I'm from Pennsylvania in the US.

Price sheet is below labeled Bike Build 1.3.PDF (Edit: fixed format)

Carbonda FM1001 Medium
Carbonda Rear Axle
Carbonda Headset
Carbonda Rear Universal Derailleur Hanger

Used: '22 Fox Float X2, 185x55, Trunnion

Used: '23 Rockshox Lyrik Ultimate, 150mm, Shiny Black

TSS 2K Epoxy Black Primer, Raven Super Colorshift Mid Coat, 2K Epoxy Gloss Top Coat

FSA Headset NO. 55R 1.5"/558, Part #13000022000010
FSA 1.5' Steel ZS Crown Race
Headset Spaces, Aluminum, 6pcs
TOSEEK ZF-ONE Carbon Handlebar, 31.8x660mm Rise
HASSNS Stem, 31.5x35mm, Purple and Oil Slick
RYET Seatpost Clamp, 34.9mm, Purple and Black
Kindshoch KS EXA seatpost dropper, 30.9x170mm
OneUp Components Remote Dropper Lever V3, purple cushion, MMX clamp adapter
Internal Cable Foam Damper
Nukeproof Mega Alloy MTB Chain Stay Protector 290

Used: Sram GX Eagle AXS Derailleur Kit
Used: Sram X01 Eagle XG-1295 Cassette. 52t
Sram GX Eagle Carbon Crankset, 170mm, 32t
Sram BB, BSA DUB 68mm/73mm
Sram Pc-X01 Eagle 12 Speed Chain, 12 Speed, 126 Links

Shimano M8100 Brake Set, Resin
Shimano RT70 Rotors, Center Lock, 180mm
SRAM Avid Matchmaker clamps and adapters, Left/Right

RYET 29 Asymmetric Carbon Wheels, 28 hole, 33mm wide, 440g
ZTTO M1 Boost Hubs, 28 Hole, 54T Ratchet, XD
Light Pillar PSR TB2015, Triple Butted, 32 x 292mm/20 x 293mm/20 x 294mm
Pillar PB14 Round Head Brass Nipples, Black, 12mm, 64pcs and Pillar PW8630 Nipple Washers, 50pcs
Kenda Rush Pro or Boost Pro Tires, 29x2.4, SCT

[japjoe7]

While I'm waiting on a bunch of stuff to be delivered from AliExpress. Food for thought. I'm using ZTTO M1 hubs(DT Swiss 180), RYET 28 hole rims, Pillar straight spokes in a 3 cross pattern. This'll be interesting. DT Swiss calulator says I can do 3 cross this way. I bought the spokes based on this calulation. Thoughts?

[Kommandant33]

Brilliant - I am thinking about moving across to this frame - currently riding a Polygon Siskiu t7 that I have upgraded just about all components of, so I would be doing a frame swap.

What brakes are you going with?

Are all prices in USD?

[japjoe7]

Brilliant - I am thinking about moving across to this frame - currently riding a Polygon Siskiu t7 that I have upgraded just about all components of, so I would be doing a frame swap.

What brakes are you going with?

Are all prices in USD?

Oh yeah, I missed the brakes in there haha. They are Shimano M8100 with resin pads from Ali. Added to the list above. Yes, in USD. Also, fixed the PDF price sheet.

[jannmayer]

While I'm waiting on a bunch of stuff to be delivered from AliExpress. Food for thought. I'm using ZTTO M1 hubs(DT Swiss 180), RYET 28 hole rims, Pillar straight spokes in a 3 cross pattern. This'll be interesting. DT Swiss calulator says I can do 3 cross this way. I bought the spokes based on this calulation. Thoughts?

With straight pull spokes, the cross pattern is determined by the drilling angle on the hub. My 28 hole hubs were 3 cross so I suspect that is correct for you as well, but it would be a good diea to verify before starting to lace the wheel. Just stick a few spokes through the holes and see how many crossings you end up with.

[japjoe7]

With straight pull spokes, the cross pattern is determined by the drilling angle on the hub. My 28 hole hubs were 3 cross so I suspect that is correct for you as well, but it would be a good diea to verify before starting to lace the wheel. Just stick a few spokes through the holes and see how many crossings you end up with.

Thanks, fingers crossed!

[jannmayer]

Thanks, fingers crossed!

2 cross or 3 cross?   


Keep in mind that one of the crossings is right by the head of the spokes and is usually hidden inside of the hub flange. If there are two crossings away from the hub, you have a three cross hub.

[japjoe7]

2 cross or 3 cross?   


Keep in mind that one of the crossings is right by the head of the spokes and is usually hidden inside of the hub flange. If there are two crossings away from the hub, you have a three cross hub.

At least 3 crossed haha. I bought the spokes based on the length of 3 cross. If all else fails I'll just need to buy new spokes and do a 2 cross.

[japjoe7]

Got my first couple parts delivered. Headset spacers from Ali came in really quick, 7 days. Nukeproof chain stay protector from the UK in 7 days too. The Nukeproof Mega Alloy Chain Stay Protector 290 fits PERFECTLY.

[h-habilis]

...This'll be interesting. DT Swiss calulator says I can do 3 cross this way. I bought the spokes based on this calulation. Thoughts?

Sounds like you're well in range with spoke lengths, see Ztto suggestions  below for the M1 based on a 583mm ERD, Ryet says there ERD is 581, I measured 582.  Did you order the rear hub delivered with the 36t stars?

[japjoe7]

Sounds like you're well in range with spoke lengths, see Ztto suggestions  below for the M1 based on a 583mm ERD, Ryet says there ERD is 581, I measured 582.  Did you order the rear hub delivered with the 36t stars?

I went by RYET ERD of 581 with 28 Spoke, ZTTO M1 28 spoke and used DT Swiss Spoke calc. Pic above show what they suggest for spoke length. I’m getting differing opinions on spoke length which I expected. We’ll see if these Pillar spokes work when they arrive.

I ordered the 54T ratchet. I know they have caused problems with others. I’m pretty light on my feet so we’ll see if they hold up. If not I’ll just swap them out for DT Swiss ratchet’s.

[japjoe7]

Got some Ali parts delivered today. Everything is in great condition. Shimano brakes look authentic.

[japjoe7]

Received my used Sram Eagle GX-1295 yesterday. It's got some rust I need to clean up. Getting some other stuff delivered today. Will post pics later.

Used Sram GX-1295 10-52 -
Had to do a lot of work to get it clean. Teeth are very good but coating is sparse. I used rust remover overnight and it took off some of the coating on the steel rings. Bought it for $100usd, retail is $415usd, not sure if it’s still a good deal considering the condition. Would not recommend buying a used cassette.

ZTTO M1 28 XD hubs -
Very well made, feel very sturdy, internals look great too. We’ll see if the 54 tooth ratchets will hold up.

Pillar Spokes -
Triple butted, these spokes are THIN. Kinda worried how they’ll hold up.

OneUp dropper remote -
Bought new and not on Ali because I didn’t see any on Ali that looked aesthetically pleasing to me.

Few more things getting delivered later today

[japjoe7]

Some more stuff delivered today. Park Tool torque wrench, ESI grips(chuncky and extra chuncky not sure which ones I’ll use), Park Tool luuuuuuube.

[lilbigmacky]

Let me know how those hubs and rims work out. I am considering building similar wheels.