Author Topic: Replica Factor Ostro VAM  (Read 23941 times)

honeykaze

Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2024, 06:58:11 AM »
Matte black with no logo, pretty stealthy
wow it looks sick! able to advice where did you get this frame?

tssy5

Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2024, 03:36:32 AM »
wow it looks sick! able to advice where did you get this frame?

You just need to search "Ostro VAM" in aliexpress.

OralMaster

Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2024, 10:40:02 AM »
    Wow, i want to live inside that frame, it looks PERFECT! and i thought my LT268 was pretty inside, this is next level!
    I kind of want one now :/
    Can you post a few pictures of yours? And how does it ride? Did you get it from that aliexpress store? you got the highest level of carbon? how much did you pay and shipped to what part of the world?





It's super stiff. I like it alot
I got it from 咸鱼 ( its the chinese equivalent ebay/craiglist within china), my seller eventually went on aliexpress because i told him laowais are less fussy and for the quality he is offering, it's gonna sell.
yup i went for the highest level of carbon. but with white paint it did came heavier than what i expected.
i paid 6500 rmb for the frame and around 60 usd to singapore using my own forward shipper, had he sold on aliexpress I would have used aliexpress instead, saved the trouble.
oh did i mention the frame came in a factor box? [/list]
« Last Edit: August 25, 2024, 12:30:18 AM by OralMaster »

Serge_K

Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2024, 02:32:02 PM »
1054g
thru axle 35g, 1019g.
derailleur hanger 20g (?), 1000g.
White paint... 75g (?), 925g
4 cage bolts, 10g (?), 915g
Size 54 advertised as 865g, that's a 50g difference, or 6% deviation. I guess anything in the 5% range is to be expected. Better safe than sorry.

6500RMB = 815 EUR + 60$ shipping, this is pricey indeed.
The Factor box makes you wonder... would that be in instance of special access to the factory floor?

I just wish the logo said Tractor and not Factor, but this is a pretty bike indeed. Having a frame from a Factor factory but with Tractor logo would be peak troll.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

tssy5

Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2024, 10:03:06 PM »
1054g
thru axle 35g, 1019g.
derailleur hanger 20g (?), 1000g.
White paint... 75g (?), 925g
4 cage bolts, 10g (?), 915g
Size 54 advertised as 865g, that's a 50g difference, or 6% deviation. I guess anything in the 5% range is to be expected. Better safe than sorry.

6500RMB = 815 EUR + 60$ shipping, this is pricey indeed.
The Factor box makes you wonder... would that be in instance of special access to the factory floor?

I just wish the logo said Tractor and not Factor, but this is a pretty bike indeed. Having a frame from a Factor factory but with Tractor logo would be peak troll.

It is the T1000 one so it would be more expensive, mine is T800 so it is around 450 EUR without shipping, probably I should get a T1000 for my next frame to see if it is going to be stiffer.

Serge_K

Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2024, 08:36:07 AM »
Price wise, that would make sense, as T1000 is supposed to cost twice as much as T800? Would be extremely interesting to compare them side by side.
Save for a very clear difference, I think I'd rather buy a t800 and upgrade frames twice as often. I'm a unit, the weight difference between frames would only serve my vanity.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

rhenders

Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2024, 08:53:54 AM »
    It's super stiff. I like it alot
    I got it from 咸鱼 ( its the chinese equivalent ebay/craiglist within china), my seller eventually went on aliexpress because i told him laowais are less fussy and for the quality he is offering, it's gonna sell.
    yup i went for the highest level of carbon. but with white paint it did came heavier than what i expected.
    i paid 6500 rmb for the frame and around 60 usd to singapore using my own forward shipper, had he sold on aliexpress I would have used aliexpress instead, saved the trouble.
    oh did i mention the frame came in a factor box? [/list]

    The seller is on Aliexpress now? What is their store called?

    Tsunami

    Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
    « Reply #37 on: August 26, 2024, 01:06:27 PM »
     Did you take some pics of the inside of the frame?
    There are some quite bad pictures of the internals of the frame on the Aliexpress seller you mentioned.
    Bought in the end the same frame in size 56 with T1100 carbon, according to the seller on AliExpress (for what it's worth).

    Weights are:
    Front fork (uncut): 452 gr
    Seatpost (uncut)+clamp+rubber: 229 gr
    Handlebar with integrated stem: 331 gr
    Frame incl: bolts+seatclamp: 1069 gr
    Parts: headset, spacers, compression plug: 153 gr

    Total weight of: 2234gr
    costs incl. shipping to Europe with DPD was 682 euro's

    Need to build everything together, just waiting for some parts though.

    Bought a Deda D-fork compression D-plug after this comment:
    For the rest will I hijack this topic thread to continue the build of the same replica Factor Ostro VAM. The picture is just for indication of how it looks like, so I know there are no headspacers, etc.

    The bottom bracket was not included, but alu axles were. those were 64 gr but I placed those at the wheels section so they are not in the frame weight calculated.

    For the rest I have the Lexon Carbon crank and the wheeltop derailleur set. I will go for a 1x setup with a 52 chainring as where I am based it's quite flat.
    Probably will go for the Elite Drive wheels or Superteam, I haven't decided yet

    estingo

    Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
    « Reply #38 on: August 29, 2024, 07:18:12 AM »
    Everything is ordered so the waiting game has begun and I can piece this "thing" together. My expected weight is around 7 kg

    Did you take some pics of the inside of the frame?
    There are some quite bad pictures of the internals of the frame on the Aliexpress seller you mentioned.

    Hello Tsunami, difficult to take pictures form the inside.
    I did my best though, I'm not sure where you saw those bad pictures of the frame internals from this particular seller.

    You can check them below.

    canadabike93

    Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
    « Reply #39 on: August 29, 2024, 11:10:02 AM »
    What wheels are you going to run with it?

    Serge_K

    Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
    « Reply #40 on: September 04, 2024, 08:24:08 AM »
    Everything is ordered so the waiting game has begun and I can piece this "thing" together. My expected weight is around 7 kg

    Hello Tsunami, difficult to take pictures form the inside.
    I did my best though, I'm not sure where you saw those bad pictures of the frame internals from this particular seller.

    You can check them below.

    That doesn't look too good. It doesn't look like the layers are especially well compressed. Looks very different from the inside of Oralmaster's frame. I hope he's a dentist, btw, or brushes his teeth a lot.
    Didn't come from the same seller, right?
    Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

    BeR

    Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
    « Reply #41 on: September 04, 2024, 08:38:40 AM »
    That doesn't look too good. It doesn't look like the layers are especially well compressed. Looks very different from the inside of Oralmaster's frame. I hope he's a dentist, btw, or brushes his teeth a lot.
    Didn't come from the same seller, right?

    How do you see that ? Around BB ? I want to learn.

    estingo

    Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
    « Reply #42 on: September 05, 2024, 03:25:11 AM »
    What wheels are you going to run with it?

    In the end, I ordered the Elite Drive 65D wheels. so they will arrive within 20-30 days.
    Also, I installed the Rear derailleur and bottom bracket, the Brake calipers, and brake hoses through the frame, and steering wheel. I added the Wheeltop shifters to the steering wheel and connected the cables. Cut in the end 20 gram from the tube from the front fork to fit. The Deda compression plug looks nice and sturdy on the steering handle as well.

    The correct chainring with 52t arrived, but I don't have the correct chainring bolts yet for a 1x setup, ordered them. Same for the 8mm open-end wrench, I have it but I want to strengthen them with the right amount of force so I bought an adapter for my torque wrench, to have the brake hoses tighten with the oil pressure screws with a torque of 10-12 Nm.

    That doesn't look too good. It doesn't look like the layers are especially well compressed. Looks very different from the inside of Oralmaster's frame. I hope he's a dentist, btw, or brushes his teeth a lot.
    Didn't come from the same seller, right?

    I checked the pictures of Oralmaster's frame and compared it to mine, however, I can only see the thread of the bottom bracket from him and compared to mine not really the inner layers. That it doesn't look good, is of course not what I would like to hear but maybe you can explain and educate us a bit like BeR also said in the comment, I also would like to know at what are you looking to compare to make such an comment.
    On your question, There are different sellers for this frame and I think he has the one with the more expensive frame, his parts look also different then mine (he has more quality I think, that why I replaced them for better stuff), seatpost wedge, compression plug, headset bearings. 


    OralMaster

    Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
    « Reply #43 on: September 05, 2024, 12:48:25 PM »
    Did you take some pics of the inside of the frame?
    There are some quite bad pictures of the internals of the frame on the Aliexpress seller you mentioned.

    i just managed to retrieve the photos that seller took before shipping out my frame, and for me to pay the balance to him lol…


    Serge_K

    Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
    « Reply #44 on: September 05, 2024, 01:05:50 PM »
    How do you see that ? Around BB ? I want to learn.

    Disclaimer: i'm not a carbon expert, it's just my (hopefully) educated guess.
    Caveat: we're looking at fakes here, not OEM, not chinese brands, so i'm being extra paranoid.

    The carbon inside oralmaster's frame (dude, that's so cringe to write every time, i'll call it the white factor) looks laid very flat, very neat, very tight, it's so neat my reaction was "can i live in it?"
    The carbon in the other one looks nothing like that. there are lots of lines (presumably because it's not EPS moulded and the bladder inside left excess resin or something like that), but more worrying to me, it doesnt look like the carbon is laid up tight, at all. it all looks wavy inside with creases and dimples and what not.
    Does it matter? probably not. Would i buy the 1st one? Yes. Would i buy the 2nd one? No. Your mileage may vary.
    Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.