Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[waltini]

There is no way this is only 28c clearance. My last frame from TanTan said 28c and I fit 32c. They seem to be very conservative with measurements for some reason.

[OralMaster]

literally a fake SL8 frame, no wonder my eps moulded SL8 will be ready soon.

[Technic]

Guys, what do you think about only being able to mount wireless groups? Couldn't you put on a mechanical 105?

[rasch]

Guys, what do you think about only being able to mount wireless groups? Couldn't you put on a mechanical 105?

Unless you want to drill holes the information displayed is quite straighforward

Even the pics don't show any holes. And I think that their definition of wireless doesn't encompass Shimano di2 once even these need holes.

[TidyDinosaur]

Guys, what do you think about only being able to mount wireless groups? Couldn't you put on a mechanical 105?

There are no cable exit holes, so only wireless I guess...

[jonathanf2]

There are no cable exit holes, so only wireless I guess...

I only see an underside battery cable hole for the RD and it looks like the battery cable for the FD is behind the front hanger. So definitely electronic only.

[Cnasta]

I't like to see better pics of the headset-spacers. If these look clean, I'll be buying this. Too bad it looks like a copy, but an aero-ish leightweight bike that is kinda goodlooking is what I'm looking for. It's this or the Velobuild 268. The TanTan might be better.

Also interesting is the option to buy this with the gravel bike 201 from TanTan and only pay shipping once

Now I need to wheelsets Leighweight road for 28c tires and a wide gravel wheelset (both from one seller). Guess Elite is the way to go

[SirBikealot]

Also interesting is the option to buy this with the gravel bike 201 from TanTan and only pay shipping once

fingers crossed but i guess this will not happen. Orderd two wheelsets and they wanted shipping for both

[bigApple]

Some details, like the bottom bracket, look very much like the one i got from yohobike. Hopefully the exploding BB is a individual case. So far no problems with mine, and i can put down some serious numbers above 1000w .

[Avalius]

Some details, like the bottom bracket, look very much like the one i got from yohobike. Hopefully the exploding BB is a individual case. So far no problems with mine, and i can put down some serious numbers above 1000w .

Let's hope it's not the same frame. I've hammered mine multiple times 1300w + to but I'm mostly the leadout guy. 20s 1000w isn't rare but should be able to handle these kinds of stress

[jonathanf2]

Let's hope it's not the same frame. I've hammered mine multiple times 1300w + to but I'm mostly the leadout guy. 20s 1000w isn't rare but should be able to handle these kinds of stress

Even if you were cranking high watts I would still presume a threaded BB could handle the stress. It seems the BB threads weren't bonded correctly leading to eventual failure. Perhaps pressfit BBs aren't so bad, especially if using a threaded PF.

[toxin]

I like the specs and such etc, but I really don't like how it's a blatant copy paste. If it were just inspired with notable differences I might be interested, but riding such a blatant counterfeit is just too wrong to me.

[zett]

Yeah, that is also my issue with the frame. I don't mind identical geometry, but they shouldn't have gone for a one-to-one copy aesthetically.

FYI, Rose sent me photos of the clearance in the back with 28 mm tires. Looks like there's loads of clearance, as expected. No photo of the fork, but I expect lots of clearance there as well. After all it looks exactly like the SL8...

[patliean1]

$629 frame + $150 shipping + $31 PayPal convenience fee = $810 And that doesn't include custom paint which is probably another $70. So probably $900 USD total

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't super intrigued about getting the frameset, slapping on some decals, and comparing it to my SL8. But $900 is a lot to gamble on. Especially when previous homage-type frames were decent for the price but missed the mark when comparing to their western brand counter-parts. A comparison probably unfair to make anyway.

Even if I convinced TanTan to send me a frame for review, they told me they aren't promoting this frame. For obvious reasons.

I still want one because....budget frames is life.

[pandinoyoung]

I still want one because....budget frames is life.

strange, 2 days ago it cost 589$, that I had put in the cart. now 629$.
it's about 120$ more than the velobuild 268 in my pole position.
I'm undecided

anyway PAT we vote for you, do the comparison