Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 15955 times)

kubackje

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #135 on: December 03, 2024, 05:54:58 AM »
I'd also consider the Magene P505 S1103 spider only. You can mount that to any 3 bolt crankset such as the Riro carbon cranks and get additional weight savings. I have two of S1103 PM spiders on my road bikes using carbon cranksets. It'll also open you up to any 110bcd 4 and 5 bolt options.

Pes505 is a great crankset with power meter. Weigh is competitive.

Riro have questionable quality and s1103 is pretty heavy at almost 150g. Would not chose this combo over pes505 base

jonathanf2

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #136 on: December 03, 2024, 09:26:34 AM »
Pes505 is a great crankset with power meter. Weigh is competitive.

Riro have questionable quality and s1103 is pretty heavy at almost 150g. Would not chose this combo over pes505 base

I prefer having options with different cranksets and bottom bracket types. Plus I can go with a lightweight carbon or a sturdy steel crankset if I choose. To each their own, but I'd rather have flexibility.

TidyDinosaur

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #137 on: December 03, 2024, 09:28:58 AM »
I prefer having options with different cranksets and bottom bracket types. Plus I can go with a lightweight carbon or a sturdy steel crankset if I choose. To each their own, but I'd rather have flexibility.

Yeah, for some reason people seem to prefer 1 fixed heavy option compared to flexibility....

KaiDeus

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #138 on: December 04, 2024, 02:51:19 AM »
We are still talking about a frame with a 41mm bottom bracket shell. 3 bolt 29mm axle is a dead end system, if you don't have a 46/47mm bb shell.

jonathanf2

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #139 on: December 04, 2024, 10:51:23 AM »
We are still talking about a frame with a 41mm bottom bracket shell. 3 bolt 29mm axle is a dead end system, if you don't have a 46/47mm bb shell.

Bro, there are 24mm steel axle 3 bolt cranksets available on the market. As it stands, 3 bolt cranksets are perhaps the most prevalent and price competitive option in the Chinese crankset market.

This isn't a complex scenario. Either A you prefer a fixed PM+crankset option -or- B you prefer the flexibility of a versatile PM+whichever crankset. Only reason I even mentioned this option is due to people who've been bodging their PM from the PES crankset and moving it to something else. They could have just bought the stand alone unit in the first place.  ;)

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #140 on: December 11, 2024, 06:10:53 AM »
Hmmm I am so tempted to buy this!
have an actual SL8 S-Works and TAN TAN are not your regular counterfeit  frame operation, so with this and the Supersix they now have it does make you think.
Good to see when someone posts a frame up

Takiyaki

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #141 on: December 11, 2024, 07:47:39 AM »
Hmmm I am so tempted to buy this!
have an actual SL8 S-Works and TAN TAN are not your regular counterfeit  frame operation, so with this and the Supersix they now have it does make you think.
Good to see when someone posts a frame up
What is their Supersix clone? They also have a Cervelo R5 clone in road and gravel geometries.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #142 on: December 11, 2024, 09:26:26 AM »
What is their Supersix clone? They also have a Cervelo R5 clone in road and gravel geometries.

There is another thread on here about it  but here is the link:
https://www.seraphbikes.com/new-full-hidden-cable-disc-brake-bsa-road-bike-frame-tt-x69-with-5d-integrated-handlebar-max-tire-70032c-p6173127.html

fhill

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #143 on: December 11, 2024, 11:36:04 AM »
What is their Supersix clone? They also have a Cervelo R5 clone in road and gravel geometries.


The R5 clone in road geometry is the FM639 but what is the gravel geometry R5 clone?

jonathanf2

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #144 on: December 11, 2024, 12:37:10 PM »
Just to verify, the SL8 clones being marketed are the Seraph/TanTan X68, Onirii One Pro and SPCycle R088? All have near identical geometry, weight and features. Any others besides the obvious fakes?

fhill

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #145 on: December 11, 2024, 01:21:40 PM »
Just to verify, the SL8 clones being marketed are the Seraph/TanTan X68, Onirii One Pro and SPCycle R088? All have near identical geometry, weight and features. Any others besides the obvious fakes?

The SPCycle R088 and Onirii One Pro are more like a SL6 (but with full integration), no aero sniffer!

fhill

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #146 on: December 18, 2024, 12:19:32 AM »
Did anyone ask wheter the frame is moulded with Latex + EPS? Or more regular PU?

pandinoyoung

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #147 on: December 18, 2024, 04:53:06 AM »
The SPCycle R088 and Onirii One Pro are more like a SL6 (but with full integration), no aero sniffer!

no, IMHO, the SP R088 is identical to the sl8 to tan tan, to airwolf, in terms of geometry and shape, but with a different head tube and fork

Takiyaki

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #148 on: December 18, 2024, 10:59:02 AM »

The R5 clone in road geometry is the FM639 but what is the gravel geometry R5 clone?

GR029. I don't know if it's an exact geometry match but it has an identical look with much bigger tire clearance and more relaxed ergonomics.

CoreX88

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #149 on: December 21, 2024, 09:05:50 AM »
My frame is painted and ready for shipment. At least on the pictures on Instagram, my color combo works out pretty well imho 8)

I hope the quality meets my expectations on arrival.