Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 21289 times)

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #165 on: January 02, 2025, 12:18:12 PM »
Legitimate question - What purpose would leaning into such investigative questions serve as a consumer looking to purchase clearly a fake/copy/unauthorized frameset?

One could argue it's about safety, production quality, or even integrity. I'd argue to probably look elsewhere for frame if any of those metrics are critical. I'm not saying consumers should throw all caution to the wind when buying fakes/copies. But there's an unspoken understanding that even TanTan expects the customer to abide by.

I don't go asking escorts about their history and business practices if all I want is a good time. And also the ease of just leaving the money on the night stand. I kid I kid  ;D

WWcyclist

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #166 on: January 02, 2025, 12:23:23 PM »
Legitimate question - What purpose would leaning into such investigative questions serve as a consumer looking to purchase clearly a fake/copy/unauthorized frameset?

One could argue it's about safety, production quality, or even integrity. I'd argue to probably look elsewhere for frame if any of those metrics are critical. I'm not saying consumers should throw all caution to the wind when buying fakes/copies. But there's an unspoken understanding that even TanTan expects the customer to abide by.

I don't go asking escorts about their history and business practices if all I want is a good time. And also the ease of just leaving the money on the night stand. I kid I kid  ;D


Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #167 on: January 02, 2025, 03:44:47 PM »
Hmmmm point taken.
It would  provide  maybe a little more peace of
Mind perhaps to the purchase to know the origin of
the frame, as if they are a manufacturer well it silly they have made the frame.
But I have learned this is not always the case.

QE_Bikez

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #168 on: January 04, 2025, 02:04:03 AM »
As promised, I’m finally sharing the photos you’ve all been waiting for. I have permission to post them here, so no worries on that front. I did not receive the Bike yet (expected mid january)


Complete Weight Of the Build : 7.175 KG




Details/Price/Specs: See at Page 8



Credits/Source:
Photos are from Tantan private Chat "Whatsapp"
Vivian@tantancycling.com
Sales01@tantancyling.com
Whatsapp:+86 13690938214


Nice frame and colour Combination.
How much did you at all for the whole purchase?

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #169 on: January 04, 2025, 10:09:42 AM »
$2399USD

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #170 on: January 07, 2025, 08:21:45 AM »
Curious to see how it rides. I was just quoted just under 2k usd for a wheeltop build with the standard 50mm deep wheels. Crazy value if it rides even 80% of an actual sl8.

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #171 on: January 07, 2025, 08:56:25 AM »
I'm still on the fence on this one as waiting for some reviews.
But obviously it would be interesting to to compare it to my SL8.

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #172 on: Today at 06:31:27 AM »
!!MY!! First initial quality impression

Bike Delivery Update

Hi everyone,
The bike arrived on Tuesday and was very well packaged. A lot was already prebuilt, and the handlebar tape is wrapped like a god—truly excellent craftsmanship!

The fork’s bearing cups were not greased but weren’t completely dry either; they were still somewhat lubricated. I decided to apply bearing grease myself. The bearing cups for the fork, both top and bottom, fit perfectly with no play at all.

The seatpost itself is perfect—the scale markings are precise, clear, and easy to read. The two saddles I ordered additionally also seem to be of very high quality. As for the bike assembly, it was very straightforward and easy to complete.

Regarding the drivetrain, well, it’s Shimano 105 Di2—it works flawlessly as expected (Japanese quality!). The bike came with a Shimano Ultegra bottom bracket installed, which is a great addition.

The wheels also seem to be of very high quality, with no visible damage and running smoothly. However, the rear wheel is slightly unbalanced. That said, this is a common issue even with high-end bikes, as seen in many YouTube reviews. You can hear it slightly from the freehub’s oscillating sound, but it’s not a major concern.

I’d like to note that all of this is just an initial quality impression. This is not a long-term test, nor has a test ride been done yet, as it’s currently snowing here in Germany—January is the coldest month of the year.

The handlebar does have a slight flex when applying force to both ends. However, I can’t properly judge this since I’ve never had a "true" high-end main-brand carbon cockpit before. It’s worth mentioning that this kind of force generates a very high leverage effect, so the flex might be normal.

The paintwork looks phenomenal, but here too, I can’t comment on its durability yet.

U Also get no Torque Charts.. I asked tantan via whatsapp and they replied immediatly
« Last Edit: Today at 06:46:13 AM by LowPaceKingdom »

Cnasta

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #173 on: Today at 07:23:16 AM »
!!MY!! First initial quality impression

Bike Delivery Update

Hi everyone,
The bike arrived on Tuesday and was very well packaged. A lot was already prebuilt, and the handlebar tape is wrapped like a god—truly excellent craftsmanship!

The fork’s bearing cups were not greased but weren’t completely dry either; they were still somewhat lubricated. I decided to apply bearing grease myself. The bearing cups for the fork, both top and bottom, fit perfectly with no play at all.

The seatpost itself is perfect—the scale markings are precise, clear, and easy to read. The two saddles I ordered additionally also seem to be of very high quality. As for the bike assembly, it was very straightforward and easy to complete.

Regarding the drivetrain, well, it’s Shimano 105 Di2—it works flawlessly as expected (Japanese quality!). The bike came with a Shimano Ultegra bottom bracket installed, which is a great addition.

The wheels also seem to be of very high quality, with no visible damage and running smoothly. However, the rear wheel is slightly unbalanced. That said, this is a common issue even with high-end bikes, as seen in many YouTube reviews. You can hear it slightly from the freehub’s oscillating sound, but it’s not a major concern.

I’d like to note that all of this is just an initial quality impression. This is not a long-term test, nor has a test ride been done yet, as it’s currently snowing here in Germany—January is the coldest month of the year.

The handlebar does have a slight flex when applying force to both ends. However, I can’t properly judge this since I’ve never had a "true" high-end main-brand carbon cockpit before. It’s worth mentioning that this kind of force generates a very high leverage effect, so the flex might be normal.

The paintwork looks phenomenal, but here too, I can’t comment on its durability yet.

U Also get no Torque Charts.. I asked tantan via whatsapp and they replied immediatly

Looks nice! Could you tell the weight of your build (with and whitout wheels)? I'd like to know if I can make it 6,99 kilo with 11sp ultegra Di2 and 1230gr wheels :)

Also, what saddles are that? Do you know the weight of those? They look nice!

And last question: Is that color chameleon white, or pearl white?

Serge_K

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #174 on: Today at 08:37:45 AM »
!!MY!! First initial quality impression

Bike Delivery Update

Hi everyone,
The bike arrived on Tuesday and was very well packaged. A lot was already prebuilt, and the handlebar tape is wrapped like a god—truly excellent craftsmanship!

You bought from tantan/seraph a frame + bars + groupset that came pre-built in a box? And wheels in a different box?
Afaik, it's unheard of, please enlighten us. Shipping cost too, as air freight of these oversized boxes is charged linearly, so every kilo easily costs another 25 eur or so in extra shipping costs.
If carbon sellers can source groups at OEM prices, it could be very nice to receive pre-built bikes.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

Ludo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #175 on: Today at 08:39:14 AM »
Seraph offers gravel bikes prebuilt with wheeltop from $900 on aliexpress, crazy!

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #176 on: Today at 08:40:30 AM »
You bought from tantan/seraph a frame + bars + groupset that came pre-built in a box? And wheels in a different box?
Afaik, it's unheard of, please enlighten us. Shipping cost too, as air freight of these oversized boxes is charged linearly, so every kilo easily costs another 25 eur or so in extra shipping costs.
If carbon sellers can source groups at OEM prices, it could be very nice to receive pre-built bikes.

BRUH where have you been? We missed you.

Ludo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #177 on: Today at 08:54:53 AM »
Under a rock it seems! Lol

MTB-Addicted

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #178 on: Today at 09:31:48 AM »
Hi
I got my fake SL8 from Taiwanese:
frame size 56 828gr (835gr with 5 bottles bolts and front derailleur hanger) - naked carbon finish, no logo
Fork 321gr - - naked carbon finish
Seatpost  (long version) 173gr
Handlebar 347gr

It will take me some weeks to recollect the pieces and test it.
The only thing I do not like at this stage is the space btw fork and head tube and btw headtube and headset coverage (I will add some photos).

I will keep you posted.


TidyDinosaur

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #179 on: Today at 09:46:29 AM »

The only thing I do not like at this stage is the space btw fork and head tube and btw headtube and headset coverage (I will add some photos).


Have you installed the front end before you came to this verdict? You have to first install everything and torque everything and all will compress and the spaces will get narrower.