Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame

[Bonus79]

I talked to SPcycle last night on AliEx messenging (well night for me) and they told that they are supplying multiple washers on current frames. They have already updated the frameset mold on newer frames to have a flat/flush hole instead. Anyways, I did try adding a thicker washer on the original thru axle, which did not work. It could indeed be an issue with not enough thread.

Also it is not a torque issue, the only reason I even noticed this issue was due to finding out I had play on the freehub of my second wheelset. It was driving me crazy, making me think it was the freehub and not the frameset! I also have other frames to compare with, so I was able to compare the bikes to see that it was indeed an issue with the R088 thru axle.

I've informed SPCycle that I'm relaying all the information from our chat on this thread. So hopefully they'll be a bit more attentive. I've attached the photos they've provided in regards to washers and the modified mold.

Does the photo detailing the modification concern the external or internal part of the frame?

Later I will try to submit the matter to David to understand if my frame (shipped on March 24) already has the modification you are talking about.

[Bonus79]

12x168mm 19L 1.0P thru axles seem like the best option that I've seen so far. 15mm thread length is too short. I even tried a 160mm TA with 19L and that even locked the wheel in-place. I think SPcycle didn't properly think things through when they adapted the SL8 knock-off frame swapping the RD hanger to UDH. 

I tried to search, but I'm having trouble finding 168mm long thru axles with 19mm thread....found instead with 15-16mm thread.
Do you think it could work just as well?

[jonathanf2]

I tried to search, but I'm having trouble finding 168mm long thru axles with 19mm thread....found instead with 15-16mm thread.
Do you think it could work just as well?

This is the first item that popped up for me on an AliEx search. The 168mm 19mm thread 1.0p thru axle is listed on there. 

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806777142794.html

The quick release version is listed here:

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805934980255.html

[jonathanf2]

Mine also uses conical spacers but with the spacers in place there doesn’t seem to be any play. I can measure the thread length of my thru axle to compare it with yours.

How many spacers did you receive, my frame only came with 1 spacer. Just to confirm, you received the 167.5mm 15mm thread thru axle?

[user757]

Received three conical spacers with my frame, used one on the rear wheel. Rear wheel seems secure on the stand, but let's see when I eventually get on the road.

Did you guys have to file out more of the exit hole for the front brake cable on the fork? I'm using the LTWOO ER9 group; unsure if other brands use different hose diameters. *Edit*: eventually got it through with some filing and probably most importantly some lube.

Waiting on cable routing kit and brake bleed kit to really go any further. Didn't have the forethought to order those when I ordered the frame. You'll have to excuse this luddite cyclist having come from rim brakes and external cables.

[user757]

What bottom brackets did you guys fit to your R088s? Been a long time since I used a BSA style, but when I thread this one on it leaves a gap between the plastic conical insert and the right side cup/bearing.

Can't remember if that is normal or if that piece is meant to be flush with both cups when they're screwed in. Can anyone weigh in?

This is the BB I ordered: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807448820970.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.7a2e1802U3zjJY&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa  Color: A-BSA-24(68 73MM)

[Bonus79]

Received three conical spacers with my frame, used one on the rear wheel. Rear wheel seems secure on the stand, but let's see when I eventually get on the road.

Did you guys have to file out more of the exit hole for the front brake cable on the fork? I'm using the LTWOO ER9 group; unsure if other brands use different hose diameters. *Edit*: eventually got it through with some filing and probably most importantly some lube.

Waiting on cable routing kit and brake bleed kit to really go any further. Didn't have the forethought to order those when I ordered the frame. You'll have to excuse this luddite cyclist having come from rim brakes and external cables.

Hi,
can I ask you about the rim depth?
For my R088 (which should arrive on April 8th) I ordered a set of Tagoola wheels a few days ago taking advantage of the Aliexpress discounts (they look identical to the Yishun Bike wheels), but I still have to decide on the depth: 50+50, 50+60 or 60+60....difficult choice (now I use 50+55 rim brake wheels)!

Which cable routing kit did you buy?
I was thinking of getting this one:

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005006015129964.html?sourceType=1&spm=a2g0o.wish-manage-home.0.0&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita

[Bonus79]

What bottom brackets did you guys fit to your R088s? Been a long time since I used a BSA style, but when I thread this one on it leaves a gap between the plastic conical insert and the right side cup/bearing.

Can't remember if that is normal or if that piece is meant to be flush with both cups when they're screwed in. Can anyone weigh in?

This is the BB I ordered: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807448820970.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.7a2e1802U3zjJY&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa  Color: A-BSA-24(68 73MM)

Unfortunately I can't help you...it will be my first time setting up a frame by myself! 

As a bottom bracket I ordered this (ceramic with tool):

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/32899863422.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.10.2e003696Veb5IW&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita

[user757]

I got the Elitewheels ENT disc 2.0 in 50 mm depth. First pair of disc wheels outside of a mtb for me and the extra work over rim brakes really makes me long for rim brakes a bit.

I got the same cable routing kit. I'd double check your BB though, looks like those are all BB30, same type as on my Cannondale (they developed it). Press-fit types like BB30 look much cleaner on the bike, but require special tools to press in both sides simultaneously and care that you don't seat them at an angle and ruin your frame. BSA are super easy to service--make sure you get the specific wrench to install. I've had mine since my previous road bike of about 15 years ago, an old Kestrel RT800. That bike had a lot of the same aero design elements of a lot of the modern aero bikes.

R088 uses the threaded Shimano style BSA BB in 68mm width. This article should help:  https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/buyers-guides/the-complete-guide-to-bottom-bracket-standards

[Bonus79]

I got the Elitewheels ENT disc 2.0 in 50 mm depth. First pair of disc wheels outside of a mtb for me and the extra work over rim brakes really makes me long for rim brakes a bit.

I got the same cable routing kit. I'd double check your BB though, looks like those are all BB30, same type as on my Cannondale (they developed it). Press-fit types like BB30 look much cleaner on the bike, but require special tools to press in both sides simultaneously and care that you don't seat them at an angle and ruin your frame. BSA are super easy to service--make sure you get the specific wrench to install. I've had mine since my previous road bike of about 15 years ago, an old Kestrel RT800. That bike had a lot of the same aero design elements of a lot of the modern aero bikes.

R088 uses the threaded Shimano style BSA 24mm BB in 68mm width. This article should help:  https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/buyers-guides/the-complete-guide-to-bottom-bracket-standards

The BB ZTTO should be fine in my case....I want to reuse the Quarq crankset (30mm diameter axle and 86mm length) with PM DZero that I mount on the current bike.
The BB also includes the tightening key.

[user757]

Second look--I did miss that those are threaded 30mm, not press. Early morning here, just woke up and eyes weren't working right just yet. My bad...

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

I got the Elitewheels ENT disc 2.0 in 50 mm depth. First pair of disc wheels outside of a mtb for me and the extra work over rim brakes really makes me long for rim brakes a bit.

Have you ridden them yet? I have the same ones and they feel very sensitive in crosswinds. Since these are my first 50 mm wheels i'm not sure if that's normal for that kind of depth or if these wheels in particular are sketchy in crosswinds.

[Tilmanstoa5ty]

How many spacers did you receive, my frame only came with 1 spacer. Just to confirm, you received the 167.5mm 15mm thread thru axle?

Mine came with two spacers. The axle is 167,5 mm with 15 mm threads. What's interesting though is the fact that there are thread marks on the non threaded area of the axle. It's probably the thread of the UDH.

[jonathanf2]

For bottom brackets, I just keep it simple and use an Ultegra BBR60 since they weigh less than 70g.

My R088 only came with 1 spacer. So perhaps the 2 spacers may work. SPCycle said they are sending me extra spacers so we'll see if that will work with the stock thru axle. Though I prefer using the quick release TA, so I may just stick with that.

[Rebel_Yell]

Question for any that might have asked SP.  Any idea of the max rider weight limit on this bike?  I asked about the R065 and it is 105kg.  Pretty Low for a frame IMO.